This is a very important bill in California addressing rampant sexual assault on campus and new practices to help victims. Paul ‘Methyldodogical’ Elam is in a tizzy over it.
‘If the law is passed, it will effectively put the burden of proof of innocence on the accused, rather than place the burden of proof on school administrators. SB 967 is poised to make an accusation tantamount to a conviction in every institution of higher education in the State of California.’
Here’s what it really is:
- better coordination with local law enforcement and community services
- focus on victim support
- teaching students about sexual assault and consent
- a YES means YES approach (enthusiastic CLEAR consent)
- alcohol consumption by the perpetrator isn’t an excuse any more, neither is saying ‘but I didn’t know any better.’
- preponderance of evidence standard
- anonymous reporting systems
Sounds good to me.
Barbara Kay, a opinion columnist for the National Post, has written her first piece on the misogynist hate site AVFM. I’m glad she’s only an opinion columnist because in her opinion there’s no rape culture because culture is the key word and there’s nothing but acceptance of rape victims. She’s wrong about this so I’ll point to a literature review that supports my claim right now to get it out of the way. Barbara doesn’t read studies nor does she cite them in any of her ‘opinion’ work.
She begins the piece by making a false equivalency between acceptance of child murder and rape.
My heart breaks for children killed by their guardians, and in a perfect world none ever would be, but even 100 children dead at the hands of their parents does not make Canada a child-killing culture, or anyone who’d say so a child-murder denier.
If we had all these myths about children deserving their deaths then yes, we would be living in a child murdering culture.
Rape culture is those set of myths surrounding rape whereby the victim of rape is blamed or held accountable for the crime, for example, the Daisy Coleman case. Just recently Daisy tried killing herself for the third time after being blamed for being raped. This is rape culture Barbara.
Not only did Daisy Coleman become a victim of rape but the small town she lived in forced her and her family to leave because how dare she accuse a popular jock of raping her. This is the same thing that happened in Steubenville. The celebrity tennis star Serena Williams told Rolling Stone that the Steubenville victim ‘shouldn’t have put herself in that position.’ All one needs to do is look at the twitter hashtags or the comment sections of these articles for both of these cases to see that we most certainly do live a rape culture where victims are blamed for a myriad of things from drinking alcohol to dressing provocatively.
To result in a “culture,” a phenomenon must be widely accepted as the norm.
Do you live in the same world the rest of us live in Barbara? I’m beginning to think you don’t. Otherwise you’d have to admit that this piece you’re writing on a hate site is completely inaccurate.
You also try to play this off against women who live in the third world by saying that women who live there TRULY live in a rape culture but here in the West it magically disappears. You say women in those ‘other’ cultures ‘meet blame from their kinsmen and indifference or even hostility at law enforcement and court levels when reporting sexual assault.‘ That is exactly what happened in the Daisy Coleman case. The town got together and condemned her. Her mother was fired from her job and the family home was burned down. Women don’t report sexual assault because they meet this kind of blame and indifference from the police, to their communities and sometimes their own family and friends.
Let’s look at Steubenville. The woman who was raped was told over and over again that she drank too much and ruined the rapists lives. Here are just a handful of the tweets made after the guilty verdict. Are you seeing a pattern yet Barb?
Barbara goes after a professional researcher of sexual assault, Mary Koss. She quote mines Koss ‘“rape represents an extreme behavior but one that is on a continuum with normal male behavior within the culture”‘ and denies the research that claims 1-4 women are raped on campus. This is why Barbara is an opinion writer and not a researcher.
In Barbara’s black and white world only the bad guys rape, not the average guys. Malamuth did a study asking average male college students if they would rape if they could get away with it. A substantial percentage of them said they would. In my Googling I found a phrase that’s often searched: How to rape and get away with it. People search for odd things but when that phrase specifically comes up when I searched ‘why women don’t report’ it startled me.
I found this statement of Barbara’s to be most revealing:
‘Moral panic fuelled by ideology and righteous indignation quickly corrodes the critical faculties and blinds even otherwise intelligent people to objective facts.’
The only person losing their critical faculties Barb, is you. I think you’re the ideologue here. You’ve not given a single link to back up your claims. As you’ve noticed in my response to you I’ve given support to my argument with peer reviewed research. Now Barb. would you like to try again? I’m waiting.
Paul would never let a good way to make more money go to waste. Even though he ironically criticizes MGTOW’s for get this: misogyny, he’s more than willing to embrace them. This will be fun. I’m sure of it.
Paul opened up a new part of the site dedicated to MGTOW dudes. This is how it was introduced:
Unlike some of the earlier forums that excluded women, AVfM-MGTOW is not based on gender apartheid and allows women to participate or contribute articles. To be clear we are 100% supportive of women-free spaces for men who need them, but we don’t feel the need to ‘regulate’ women completely out of sight. There are many MGTOWs who enjoy input from (red pill) women and do not feel threatened by their presence.
Notice how they say ‘women free’ instead of men’s spaces? The truth of it is they ARE threatened by women who don’t uphold their misogyny. Of course AVFM sends dual messages by talking out of both sides of their mouths:
A gender-apartheid attitude runs the risk of fostering and deepening animosity for women, and even of other men
And then this:
Righteous anger and venting is normal and even healthy, and feeling free to do so without some damsel-in-distress or schoolmarm shaming you into silence is a good thing
Basically misogyny is ok until it’s not ok but it’s really ok:
Anger and hatred toward the misandric femosphere is warranted but, after a certain point of expression, anger with no constructive channel to flow to, and isolation from half the human race, provides diminishing returns for Men Going Their Own Way.
Horsehockey. The guy couldn’t even spell ‘misandry’ correctly.
While we aren’t actively recruiting women to the site, we seek to avoid the apartheid culture that, as Paul Elam once observed, fosters little but endless rants about cunts and whores and traitors.
It’s Paul Elam that calls women cunts and whores and bitches!
Women are allowed in the precious new forum but they must abandon something before entering:
Women entering the space of AVfM-MGTOW are as welcome here as men, with one provision; As a woman, you abandon your sex at the door. You are not a woman, or a female in this space. You are simply a person, owning no special status or consideration due to details of your anatomy. Female visitors who fail to meet this expectation will, with bruised dignity, find their feminine asses unceremoniously shown to the exit. Thank you for your kind attention, and enjoy.
Females must lose their sex because these men are afraid of it. Suddenly you’re not a woman OR a female. I suppose super cool space alien? If you disagree with men you gain your genitals back and you’ll be kicked out. You’re only a ‘person’ if you agree and nod your e-head. This isn’t misogynist gender apartheid at all!
And one last thing is about biological determinism of which MGTOW’s are so fond:
This publication does not support reductionist notions of biological determinism, especially those characterizing culture is a mere epiphenomenon of genetic expression.
I can’t wait to read some of the anal gazing misogyny that’s gonna come out of this cash register for Elam!
Clint Carpenter is a writer for AVFM and a self-described blue collar worker. He does various types of construction work and has written an article on AVFM to explain sexual harassment and condone it.
‘At what point does a high levity work environment become directed sexual harassment? And should one’s delicate feelings dictate the level of tomfoolery in a workplace that is already naturally serious?’
There’s the whole ‘women are delicate and feely’ theme used to gaslight women who are being sexually harassed either at work or on the street. It’s all ok though because he explains:
Boys and men have “blow-off” levels, and when it’s kept bottled up, bad things tend to happen.
So what? There’s many ways to blow off steam without targeting a woman on the street and catcalling her. Next he tries to excuse sexual harassment by seeing girls in groups in high school.
‘Having been the victim of gaggles in high school, I have every reason to avoid them now. Being the only male – or one of a few – makes one a target, having no recourse but to put up with the objectification, or shaming, or jokes, or what-have-you, lest you’re accused of sexual harassment for your unsolicited wit;’
It’s ok to call women in groups ‘gaggles’ and that’s not insulting at all but damn them for clustering in groups near lockers and talking!
‘Sexual harassment works both ways ladies; moving on.’
How does a group of young women talking in a group objectify men? Last time I checked if you make a joke that’s not sexual then it’s not sexual harassment. What Clint is trying to do is make a false equivalency to explain away why men catcall and harass women.
‘The blue collar workforce is dominated by men, and point of fact, dominated by men with more testosterone than your average college geek, coffee shop espresso latte master mixer, and grocery bagger.’
Not all men are men according to the Men’s Human Rights movement. There’s more reasons why those testosterone-filled construction workers sexually harass women:
‘On a typical construction site, you’re going to find a certain level of good natured derogatory speech aimed at one another. It’s not to one-up each other, or to self-ego boost, or even so much as to climb any imagined social ladder. It’s to keep the mind sharp, help with levity in a dangerous environment, and to generally enjoy the hard fought benefits of “free speech”.’
FREE SPEECH YO! I can harass any woman I want because it’s FREE SPEECH!
‘And it’s not just in the work force that men encounter “trigger warning” speech.’
Want to know what he considers trigger warning speech?
‘mocking each other’s vehicles’
Your Buick is evil I say! Eviiiilll!
He goes on to describe a bunch of males heckling each other sexually and yet fails to understand that doing that very same thing to women is sexual harassment.
If you don’t understand banter, or levity, or ribbing, or refuse to acknowledge such communication, then everything a man says will be construed as sexual harassment.
Here’s another installment of comments from the hate site A Voice for Men. As always, trigger warnings are in effect.
‘You’re going to find out, as soon as you’re out of your 20s and everyone stops privileging and insulating you: The world cares even less about your ego than it would have if you were a stay-at-home wife and mother.’
I want to keep women barefoot and pregnant or invisible.
‘The media’s constant denigration of “angry white men” as the cause of the world’s problems will end up encoded in law as a “retributive jim crow”.’
White men are like the African American slaves.
‘in the modern environment, female mate selection and relationship behaviour is highly maladaptive.’
Women don’t pay any attention to me.
‘The way they talk about beta males like they are a lower form of life sickens me. what triggers female attraction is completely amoral, (Just like it is with men.) What sort of person a female likes or doesn’t like is not a reflection on a person.’
Women don’t pay any attention to me.
‘You can get the attention of gold diggers though by giving of signals of high status, this will not make the women wet for you though.’
Women don’t pay any attention to me even when I act tough.
‘In fact I have had women flirt with me quite a lot. (3 different women getting in my body space, flirting passively. One married women touching me by accident repeatedly.)’
A woman touched me accidentally. OMGERD!
‘Most women go on plenty of fish for a ego boost and to shoot men down’
Women online don’t pay any attention to me.
‘I hate conspiracy theories and reject 99.99% of them outright. If you want a so called traditional way of life, point your finger at who destroyed it. It wasn’t the USSR or Karl Marx, it was women and the state.’
I found a conspiracy theory that explains why women don’t pay any attention to me.
‘In the world we live in, yes being a sociopath does work.’
I’m a sociopath because women don’t pay attention to sociopaths.
‘The “primal forces” that motivate women relate principally to resistance to change, narcissism and fear… for example, fear of being left on the shelf, fear of not finding a provider to provide for her, fear of novelty and fear of the unknown.’
Women don’t like assholes and I’m an asshole so I made this shit up to make myself feel better.
Farrell reprinted his book ‘The Myth of Male Power’ and asked Paul Elam, from the hate site A Voice for Men, and friends to come up with a good front cover. Farrell’s partnership with the hate site started a few months ago. He is considered one of their leaders because he’s been doing this work for over 20 years.
You’d think a title like ‘The Myth of Male Power’ would invoke images of downtrodden men but once Paul Elam and crew got a hold of it they submitted photo after photo of scantily clad women, women without faces. Here are some of the popular submissions and their explanations.
Farrell chose a black and white stylized photo of naked lady parts. The reason he did that is to show that women’s bodies make men into blubbering sex starved fools who don’t have real power. The real power is between a woman’s legs in Farrell’s and Elam’s world.
Does putting a half-shot of a naked woman without a face on a book geared towards men remind anyone of anything? Thought so.
To promote the book AVFM says this:
‘In fact, if we are to be honest, most of the points MHRAs make today are but variations on themes which were set 20 years ago by one brilliant man. Whether we are discussing male disposability, challenging the “wage gap” or challenging male “power” and “privilege” – we are merely following in the footsteps of one Dr. Warren Farrell.’
Well let’s look at some of those variations shall we? The first one encapsulates the rest of them and that’s misogynist backlash. Twenty years ago there were men just like Elam and Farrell who claimed that men and women have biological differences that determine our sex roles to try and put women back in the home. Farrell’s work is just another biological determinist expose that romanticizes the traditional male-headed family. Farrell neatly packages this inequality with one word: survival.
Another worn-out target of male backlash is women’s reproductive rights. MRA’s claim they don’t have the same rights as women. These men want the right to force a woman to abort or some legal way out of paying child support. As this MRA put it:
‘It is a blatant violation of mens humanity to tell them they can have no last-word power over procreation, including abortion.’
One of the oldest tricks in the anti-feminist bag is the insistence that women are just as violent as men, especially in domestic situations. MRA’s use a tiny number of studies that are methodologically flawed to make this claim. In particular, they cite studies that use the Conflict Tactic Scale invented by Straus. The scale doesn’t measure sexual violence nor does it differentiate between throwing a toothbrush at someone and smashing someone in the face. Using these flawed cherry-picked studies is the only way MRA’s can make the outrageous claim that women are as violent as men.
‘in fact, in matters of domestic violence; women are half the problem.’
If you go to AVFM’s ‘research’ wiki you’ll find a study or two and the typical Fiebert bibliography that MRA’s say is proof of their claims and yet not one study from the bibliography is discussed in detail to SHOW that it supports their claim.
Simply put, nothing has changed. Small pockets of backlash groups have always protested the liberation of women. Farrell is just rehashing the same old claims to a new male audience. This is why Farrell’s book, after 20 years of being available, has failed to gain traction in the wider public consciousness and has been a mainstay of misogynist men.
For more information on Farrell check out these links:
What do you think happened when AVFM posted another rant about how feminists do nothing for men and how TEH MENZ have to stick together and help other men? Lots of helping, with grammar!
The explosive rant was long and whiny but this one shitty paragraph finally got teh menz helping each other.
“It was as if those who knew it wasn’t true who decided to let the lie continue unabated, supposedly content with the knowledge that even though it was a mischaracterized exaggeration of how men and women lived before technology wiped a massive portion of sweat from our brows, women had it worse and continued to have it worse in just about every aspect of life.”
An AVFM member got to work correcting the editor with his own spelling errors which resulted in down-thumbing:
‘I’d be pulling my fat “F” stamp for this English paper. Last comma should be a sem or colon with the following “women” capitalized.’
A fight ensued:
‘Thank you for your part in making sure that each of their thousands of articles is completely free of grammatical error. I don’t see how they could ever get their ideas across any other way.
P.S. You don’t use a capital letter after a semicolon, even though what comes after is a complete sentence.’
Another MRA decides to help:
‘Let’s move the appositive for “the lie” into its proper place, and then reconsider.
One comment really summed it up:
‘In short, things are happening and people are helping men. YOu might not see it, but that doesn’t mean it’s not happening.’
Hmmm. Paul Elam rakes in all your cash. Dean Esmay sits online and pretends he’s the editor of your crappy mispelled and grammatically inept blog and leaves you guys to argue about it. Yep! Things are happening! Teh menz are finally helping each other out.