Paul Elam the Benevolent Dictator Whom Nobody Should Do Business With and No Journalist Should Give Him the Time of Day

Some MRA’s that follow Elam are calling him just that. This is on the heels of a post he did titled ‘C’mon Paul, What Do You Do With the Money?’ Months ago Elam told everyone what he did with the money. He pockets it. This time around he added some of his ‘tough guy’ stance to show his buddies what a big tough man he is and how he deserves the money because he’s the victim in all this.

This time though, he’s got to answer some questions about the $33K that was raised to cover security costs for the conference that was supposed to take place at the Doubletree Hilton in Detroit. After Paul wrote an article calling the hotel a ‘bunch of scheming liars’, he posted 3 letters that raise more questions, and specifically, about how honest he was when raising that security money.

He told his cult followers in early June that he needed the money, at first $25K, for security because feminists were making bomb and death threats to the hotel. Turns out, he knew that there were no threats and his lawyers wrote the Doubletree on June 5th complaining that not one police report was made nor was there any examples of the threats they could give AVFM. The local media in Detroit tried substantiating the threats but could not.

So Paul knowingly perpetuated a lie to raise ‘security money’ and ran with that story even after his lawyers, under his direction, claimed there were no threats. On June 2, certainly while Paul knew there were no threats, he was on Youtube still claiming there were threats and at the end of the video said he was already talking to his lawyers, presumably on the lack of threats. This proves he knew there were no threats while he was still collecting money. He cleverly named his fundraiser a ‘campaign for free speech,’ which had nothing to do with threats.

On the fundraising page there’s a thank you letter from Paul telling people where the money will be going toward after the Hilton fell through

That does not, however, mean we will be providing less security for the event. We are again negotiating a strong and highly visible police presence as well as providing our own private security team.

All insurance we have purchased will be transferred or rewritten  to cover the new facility. Legal fees have already doubled our original expectations and we are expecting yet another bill.

To put it shortly, we are going to use your donations for precisely the same reasons as indicated in the original appeal, but at a different location.

In Paul’s current quarterly fundraiser he admits is ‘stretching the generosity of its donors’ and once again claims that the $33K went to security but writes his fundraiser is for operating costs to keep AVFM going. So we have three different stories now. 1) $33K has gone to 4 people to do security at a VFW hall, which is so unbelievably untrue, 2) it’s gone to his lawyers in order to recoup over 100K from the Hilton, 3) it’s going to AVFM ie. his pocket. With all the questions around where this money went he’s had to extend the current fundraiser by a week because the money isn’t coming in like he thought it would but his new little tough guy/victim post railing at David Futrelle and feminists pretending to be MRA’s seems to be working to get that money flowing. CLICK IMAGE TO ENLARGE

Really? 33K to cover security from 4 people at a VFW hall?

Really? 33K to cover security from 4 people at a VFW hall?

That does not, however, mean we will be providing less security for the event. We are again negotiating a strong and highly visible police presence as well as providing our own private security team.

All insurance we have purchased will be transferred or rewritten  to cover the new facility. Legal fees have already doubled our original expectations and we are expecting yet another bill.

To put it shortly, we are going to use your donations for precisely the same reasons as indicated in the original appeal, but at a different location.

– See more at: https://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/campaign-for-free-speech/updates#sthash.dZscXgpB.dpuf

That does not, however, mean we will be providing less security for the event. We are again negotiating a strong and highly visible police presence as well as providing our own private security team.

All insurance we have purchased will be transferred or rewritten  to cover the new facility. Legal fees have already doubled our original expectations and we are expecting yet another bill.

To put it shortly, we are going to use your donations for precisely the same reasons as indicated in the original appeal, but at a different location.

– See more at: https://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/campaign-for-free-speech/updates#sthash.dZscXgpB.dpuf

That does not, however, mean we will be providing less security for the event. We are again negotiating a strong and highly visible police presence as well as providing our own private security team.

All insurance we have purchased will be transferred or rewritten  to cover the new facility. Legal fees have already doubled our original expectations and we are expecting yet another bill.

To put it shortly, we are going to use your donations for precisely the same reasons as indicated in the original appeal, but at a different location.

– See more at: https://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/campaign-for-free-speech/updates#sthash.dZscXgpB.dpuf

His lawyers said the secondary issue was the Hilton seating capacity. We know now there were only about 100 people max at the conference so the Doubletree would’ve been fine to host the event since it can hold that many people. The tickets were $300 and the legal claim for ticket loss is roughly $30K, which makes sense. Only 100 tickets or less were sold. So Paul knew the Doubletree could accommodate the conference but instead made up some story. The legal letter states that Doubletree could accommodate up to 200 people. Excuse me while I do some simple math but if you only have 100 people then a 200 seat hall is enough.

We’re not getting the full story here. We’re getting selected pieces of it. It seems to me that Paul wants to recoup the entire cost of the conference and is going to blame it on the Doubletree instead of himself. He may have lost money on the conference and is using this as a creative way to recoup those finances. Why hold another fundraiser literally a week after raising 33K that Paul admits wasn’t completely spent since they had the con at a VFW hall with minimal security monies needed?

I’m going to take an educated guess here as to where that money went. I think he paid minimal money for security at the VFW, under 3K. A couple thousand  has gone to his lawyers so he could try and recoup over $100K which he claims the conference cost (which I don’t believe either).  Either way, there’s some serious dishonesty here and many stories as to where the money is going.

In his first article mentioning the ‘feminist bomb and death threat’ lie he published the letter from Doubletree online to ‘prove’ it. He wasn’t supposed to publish it and that got him into trouble. That may have been the tipping point where Hilton had enough of his scheming. What’s ironic is that Paul redacted the female Doubletree manager’s name only to dox her a month later.

‘To ensure that there is no backlash against any individual at Hilton, I have had the individual’s name who signed the letter redacted.’

Paul then published the Doubletree letter with her name in full view, doxxing her and setting her up for the only activity AVFM ever engages in: harassment of women. This is why nobody should ever do business with you. Nobody should trust you one bit. 

Paul’s tough guy/victim routine wasn’t over yet. In the article released today Paul posts an email exchange he had with the media. When an MSNBC journalist Adam Serwer asked detailed questions about AVFM’s funds Paul wrote him an email calling him a ‘whore.’ Paul also played the poor victim:

I have to bear the brunt of this stuff, so I am going to be the one who makes the calls on what personal information, including income from this website, is divulged to the public.’

Here’s the ‘brunt’ of what Paul has to deal with:

I am a target for feminists posing as concerned MHRAs, yellow hacks like David Futrelle, and a target for many in the media who would love nothing better than to publish my personal financial information after putting their disgusting spin on it.

Wow. Poor baby. That’s some serious pressure there. David keeps you up at night eh Paul? If the only thing I had to worry about was MRA’s posing as feminists I’d think that was nothing. You forget Paul that you’re not the victim here buddy. The victims are the women you target, doc drop, incessantly harass and intimidate from your online pedestal. Those are the real victims. Not you. Let’s face it Paul, it’s the only thing you’ve ever done. You haven’t done a single thing for men and boys, only attacked women.

True to form, the AVFM cult followers praised Paul’s tough guy/victim act and brought up feminist Anita Sarkeesian to soothe their little minds that it’s ok for Paul to take hundreds of thousands of dollars and not account for it because Anita raised $160K. What they fail to mention is Anita is actually doing good work with that money, doing what she SAID she was going to do with it, and only asked for it one time while Paul wants it every quarter. The cult members of AVFM overlook Paul’s willingness to be dishonest.

As soon as the rageboners and paranoia for feminists came out in the comment section it exploded in massive cheering, more paranoia, and more donations to add to the $20K Paul is currently asking for. These remarks were made

‘A benevolent dictator model can, and has worked well for many organizations in the past, as long as the benevolent dictator is still the position to dictate, and he remains good, principled and benevolent.’

‘I reckon Paul should structure AVFM as if it was a company as far as hierarchy, but maintain total and complete control, as a dictator. His word on anything is final…….period.’

Elam claimed at the conference he was ‘building bridges’ between men and women.  This isn’t a bridge. It’s a one-man echo chamber that is untrustworthy, vicious, misogynist, and crude. Nobody should ever enter into any contract with Elam nor send him a penny. If you ever disagree with him rest assured you will be called out and harassed endlessly which is what he’s planning on doing to three mainstream journalists this week and what he’s doing to the female manager of the Doubletree.

If these AVFMers really believe that writing an MSNBC journalist and calling him a whore is going to change anything for the better, if you think attacking women and feminists online and offline, is going to make headway for your cause, or lying to get funds, I’ve got bad news for you.

 

 

 

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23 thoughts on “Paul Elam the Benevolent Dictator Whom Nobody Should Do Business With and No Journalist Should Give Him the Time of Day

  1. It’s pretty obvious that wherever AVfM goes recriminations and lawsuits follow. I hope anyone else who might be doing business with them in the future takes note.

    I noticed AVfM has Marc Randazza as their lawyer. He is a very well-known 1st amendment lawyer, and unless he is doing the work pro bono he must cost quite a bit. They must think they really have a chance with their lawsuit. Marc Randazza has done some good work; he went after a revenge porn site, and he’s made life difficult for copyright trolls. But he was also the lawyer for one of those guys who ran Auto-Admit. I’m sure you remember Auto-Admit, the forum for law students where male law students tore into the reputation of female law students, calling them whores, speculating on their sexuality, and making it impossible for them to get summer jobs. People will say everyone deserves legal representation, but Marc Randazza appears to only take cases he believes in.

    At the same time that Paul Elam had his lawyer on Doubletree for “irrational, unsupported and malicious” demands for extra security coverage Judgy B. and the other AVfM staff had a fundraising for security video up on Youtube where all the AVfM regulars each said “I am a person, and they are trying to silence me.” Judgy even managed to squeeze out a few tears. Some of their followers in the comments were so worked up by it all they wanted to “take up arms against the feminists.” It’s a dangerous game AVfM is playing, manipulating people and rousing their anger against the feminist boogeywoman to get them to open their wallets.

    At least their bid for the mainstream means more people are watching them.

    • Well we know why Elam needed the $33k he claimed was for security now… I have to wonder if Randazza noticed the discrepancies in the signature on the 2 letters from the hotel before he took this case… Or the actual letters at all.

  2. He admits that he is AVfM, that all the money goes directly into his own pocket, then he continues to use the word, “We,” all throughout the requests for more donations.

    The comment section on that June 2nd YT video claiming there are threats against the hotel or MRAs or whoever exactly is very unusual. It’s the first time in a long time I’ve seen a comment section beneath an MRA video that was not entirely overrun with MRAs. There were actually a few people there asking questions – like why can no one confirm these threats?

    That “building bridges” thing was said by Elam right after Judgy Bitch issued her threat against radical feminist bloggers. Yeah, way to reach out to women there by going all Elliot Rodger and telling us we should fear you because you’re coming after us.

  3. Paul was pretty busy today, it seems. He and his minions have another new target since last week: Matt Binder.

    Elam is such a charming fellow, too, as you can see from the comment section.

    The fact is that even mentioning these guys in some way or just talking about men, in general, somewhere in a way that they take issue to – such as in “we’re tired of all the violence and what can we do about it” (as we very often do on radical feminist blogs) – can make you a target.

        • Oh, which reminds me, you should give him the link to my blog so he can figure out Elam. I mentioned this on Matt’s comment section of his video but I don’t think he got it. Here’s what Paul is going to pull at this ‘debate’ which is really Paul just grandstanding and making up a bunch of shit.

          All that’s going to happen is Paulie is going to read off a bunch of quote mines from radical feminists and expect the other person to explain them or ELSE feminism is TEH EVIL!!! Then he’ll pull the angle of ‘but we had a senator and tons of intelligent women at our conference and whaddaya think about that!?’
          We can’t be misogynists if there’s a few women and a senator on the panel!

          You didn’t watch the conference! Whaaaaaa!

          Then he’ll rattle off some unfounded stats he pulled from he ass in some sort of a gotcha moment. He’ll try the ‘domestic violence is equal among men and women!’ FALSE, or ‘Men are raped more than women!’ Probably not true but even if it is true they’re raped by OTHER MEN, not feminists.

          Let’s see, he’ll bring up Erin Pizzey a woman from England who started a battered women’s shelter and lies about feminists and the supposed threats she got plus she made up a story about feminists killing her dog. None of this is substantiated by a SHRED of evidence.

          Senator Cools, right wing homophobe that wants marriage to be only between a man and a woman.

          Tara Palmatier and her rampant misogyny and golden uterus crap.

          Warren Farrell: incest and rape apologist

          Stefan Molyneux: thinks women who sleep with alpha make jerks are ruining the world and should be stopped plus a whole lot more misogyny.

          Paternity fraud. Has nothing to do with feminism. Feminists support pat tests. In fact, on AVFM there’s an article about how pat tests might be a bad thing.

          Men and suicide. Not due to feminists.

          Divorce industry where wimminz are initiating divorce more! Who cares, they’re allowed to.

          Rape hysteria: the one in 4 stat, which is supported but he has some cockamamie story about it and he thinks women are too scared of men, which is funny because he makes us scared of them with this bullshit.

          False allegations of rape: A most infinitesimally small amount that most police departments either NEVER have or say less than 1% not only that but most of the time the women are telling the truth it’s just mistaken identity, like the Innocence Project which I’m sure he’ll rattle on about. Most of the men being exonerated are black men and it was a case of mistaken identity, not a false accusation.

          • He has it with the link now. But worry not. I was not kidding when I said Elam has no idea what he is in for. Matt is a wiz at finding hypocrisy. A serious info hound, research is his forte. Elam has things buried, but not deep enough. He is not dealing with people his (few and dwindling as we speak) minions can dox and walk away from this time…

          • Plus, there are buttons to be pushed that will drive Elam nuts.

            Two things that I can think of are:

            (1) Where is the money really going, which is donated to you and AVfM, which are one and the same?

            and

            (2) Any form of ridicule, any mockery, anything that is or sounds “belittling” – and that is the words MRA use. And, I don’t think it’s just women they accuse of belittling them in an argument whenever we point out the idiocy of a statement, but these guys all turn different colors just thinking about Dave Futrelle “mocking” them. MRAs really hate being laughed at – and there’s lots of funny material here.

            The second thing, above, is probably why they got so ticked at Matt, in the first place, he’s pretty funny, especially when he’s talking about something as ridiculous as the MRM.

            I noticed that Elam referred to him as “kid” in the comment sections. He’s young and cute – these things are not always an advantage in the world, but, in a case like this, it makes him like a stealth bomber – Elam won’t event see him coming!

          • Oh, and the connection between AVfM and PUAHate, which was Elliot Rodger’s hang out before her went on his killing spree. That whole thing with The Red Pill movement, too, which is connected. Plus, AVfM’s connection with the fraudulent charity group, CAFE, in Canada who recently falsified the app to the Gov. using feminists’ names.

            Also, the fact that Molyneux and Rodger sound like they’ve both read exactly the same books. Women are to blame for choosing bad men. The reason there are so many assholes in the world is because women marry assholes.

            Oh, and don’t forget John Hembling: Retributive violence against women is all women’s fault. “Retributive violence” and “retribution” being key words that let you know these guys are MRAs – and, of course, Rodger called his murder spree “The Day of Retribution” against women, especially “blonde sorority sluts,” who literally didn’t know he existed.

            And then there’s Karen Straughan who says that feminists invented “domestic violence.” Domestic violence, which MRAs call “corrective discipline” is a man’s right.

            There’s no such thing as rape, only regret. And, they say this many times in many different ways, but the reporters latched onto that statement by one of the women – can’t remember which one – at the conference.

            Also, these dudes – abusers one and all – continually assert that in divorce where children are involved there should always be a 50/50 custodial split. Many of them want to make divorce illegal. And, the purpose here (and I could point to cases online and I have personal anecdotes, as I’m sure many women do) is to keep control over the woman. This is used as an opportunity for further abuse of all kinds and the courts (far from being unfair to these alleged fathers) most of the time insist on visitation rights for the father, no matter if he’s a an abuser or a rapist.

            The Elliot Rodger thing really ticks them off, too. But, right after the killing spree, some dude from the PUAHate site, which is where Rodger clearly got a lot of his warped ideas about women, wrote an article on AVfM denying any connection!

            Here’s a link to info. about that: http://www.reddit.com/r/againstmensrights/comments/273ve0/jalon_cain_aka_aaron_sleazy_puahatecom_moderator/

            And, there’s a similar Reddit link around here in the comment section of your last blogpost or two that makes that connection between Jalon Cain aka Aaron Sleazy of PUAHate and AVfM. Despite this, they (the MRM as a whole and AVfM, in particular) continue to deny any connection between themselves and Rodger and his ideology and hatred of women.

          • Also, they are associated, one way or another, with a string of violent acts and threats of violence against women.

            Elam used to have a site called “Register Her,” which he used to go after women.

            A recent example, although not necessarily the most violent, the best documented perhaps is the case of Vliet Tiptree. He put a bounty on her head and sent hackers after her. I don’t know the extent to which she was threatened offline, but they sent men to her home and it sounds pretty bad, according to her website documenting these events: http://avoiceforcreepymen.blogspot.com/2012/07/part-two-vliet-tiptree-cyberstalking.html

            And, then there’s that threat they made against us at the end of the conference. I don’t see how they can complain about women being too afraid of men when they make public threats like that, especially at a select group of women. I think part of the statement was, “…you should be afraid…” because we’re coming after you, something like that.

    • @rhyminglady, Binder is as funny as hell in that video. This could work out, because the elampomposity would be EZ to prick. The fake stats, the reversals, the delusions, and the projections, oh lord the projections…I can see this happnin…

      • Yes, I’ve only seen a few episodes of Matt’s show, but he can be really funny. He’s very appropriately sarcastic and they’re going to hate that!

        Regarding the reversals: Yes, especially the women at the conference engaged in complete reversals of feminism. What they do is take a real thing that is happening, for instance, men raping women and turn it around and say that women are raping men in equal numbers. There are better examples, but some of them are more complicated. They just take the work of feminists and switch the words man and woman and pretend that it’s men who are being oppressed by women.

        I am a little concerned for his safety, though, even though he is a man. He won’t get the worst of it like explicit rape threats or being beat up, but these guys are relentless and there’s a whole bunch of them with nothing else to do but harass women and feminists in betwixt playing video games and eating Ramen noodles in their studio apartments (as per one of Paul’s recent articles begging for donations for is “cause”).

        • And let’s not forget the MRA”s, especiallly ELam and and Esmay are bitterly raging at the media. This could be a way to release all that frustration at someone. If I were him, I wouldn’t do it. TBH

          • According to Matt’s Twitter feed, it looks like they’re already attempting to dox him:

            He doesn’t look worried. He’s a man. He probably doesn’t have much to fear from making his personal info. public – likely no stalkers, no scary rapist-exes, etc., like a lot of women have to worry about.

          • It looks like Matt is going to debate, as such, Elam at 6 p.m. E.S.T (I believe that’s correct). According to Matt, Elam wouldn’t do it unless it was done at his site and with his own “unbiased” moderator. Guess who the “unbiased moderator” is going to be…

            Go ahead…

            Try to guess…

            You’re going to laugh so hard!

          • Okay, here’s the Tweet with the answer in it:

            Yes, Yeti-man is going to be the “unbiased moderator!”

  4. But the mainstream press has cemented the idea that feminists were angry and threatening. AVfM is still being seen as the underdog. Does that even matter?

    • The ‘mainstream press’ as you call it panned the conference after it happened, not those who demonstrated against it prior to its move to the VFW hall (NO ONE protested beyond that. They had won- he ran from the hotel).

      Only Elam (and those who believed him) claimed there was a threat based on the letter he says he received from the hotel… Now that the letter dated from the 5th of June from his lawyer shows that by the time he could have received the alleged second one (dated the 2nd) by the hotel he had this in the works… He was trying to pull out of the hotel. It is the only explanation. I am wondering if Randazza has put this together yet…

  5. Maybe this is why Elam is so on the defensive about where the money goes:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/againstmensrights/comments/2a1rxy/paul_elam_every_dollar_donated_goes_right_into_my/

    Adam Serwer, the reporter from MSNBC, who did a very nice article on the con, has been making further journalistic inquiries about the nature of AVfM, which I suppose Elam would take personally, since he’s basically the Wizard of Oz standing behind a curtain turning a crank and trying to appear bigger and more important than he really is.

    This is supposed to be the correspondence from Serwer, it’s the link from the discussion at the sub-reddit above:

    http://www.donotlink.com/framed?55484

    You know, it’s one thing to beat up obscure college students and go after single women with children to protect and little if no support, but taking on reporters from MSNBC and Time Magazine and having your lawyer send threatening letters to the Hilton Corp. might prove to be a whole other ballgame for ‘ol Pauly.

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