Oh I Got To Talk To an Indian Woman Alright, Just Not the Right Indian Woman

Deepika ignorantly blames feminism, not patriarchy for dowry in India

My call for Indian women was answered but not in the way I intended. I watched a TEDX talk by Deepika Narayan Bhardwaj. She is a men’s rights activist and her talk was about dowry. She thinks women are abusing men by filing false dowry related complaints. Sounds like the MRA’s and false rape claims yet? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

My first question to her was to ask her whether she acknowledged that dowry was the result of patriarchy in India, you know, the idea that women are objects or property to be bought and sold?

She refused to answer that question. She wasn’t about to be honest with me.

Instead this is what she said to me:’

you and (i dunno whether ur a woman or a man) …people like you are a disgrace to every beautiful relationship between a man and a woman. I guess males in ur home think like that. Not mine. Not my father. Not my brother. Not my friends. You mean a woman should be sent butt naked to next home? You mean a father and mother have no responsibility of a daughter just because they married her? Dowry was always a right of a woman from her own home. Sickos like you distorted the very meaning of it because for you greedy souls everything that is of a husband and his family is your lottery. Are you yourself a pimp who buys and sells women? Or you are a prostitute who earns for her ownself but blame the society for putting her in it even tho she chose to. Yez i will never agree that men view women as object, when they do, she herself is making an object out of her….walking semi nude on roads. You and i wud never agree. So adios

That wasn’t enough for her. Before I could respond she shot back:

LOL and leeches in india are taking millions just after few months of marriage!!! Stop bullshitting
 And before I could respond to that, she topped it all off with this:

perfect trait of a dumb feminist

It’s pretty typical that she accuses me of doing all sorts of horrific things rather than answer my straightforward question. Men’s rights activists never answer direct questions. It reminds me of Karen Stringbeanhead telling everyone on Youtube the other day that feminists love Conservatives aka Republicans and want to implement their policies.

I didn’t even have a chance to give my opinion of dowry, which if she could have a logical, normal conversation without flipping the fuck out I would’ve absolutely said I disagree with dowry. People should marry for love, not put prices on women’s bodies to marry them off, which is what patriarchal Indian society does. She couldn’t admit that so she just went nuts with accusations and crazy talk. Insulting me personally doesn’t win an argument Deepika.

I searched Google for this phrase ‘dowry a result of patriarchy’ and got LOTS of articles explaining just that. The first article describes the murder of women due to dowry related issues as well as the disfigurement of women by men through acid attacks. The second article is more about how patriarchy functions to harm women. Bride burning is what Indian suffer when the dowry monies aren’t being paid to her husband and his family. Women are burdens in India but Deepika refuses to acknowledge these facts.

What also disturbs me about Deepika was her off the rails rant. Her idea that women are choosing to be prostitutes and then adding in some rape apology for good measure is exactly why she’s a misogynist working against women’s liberation. Lots of other MRA creeps are on her video praising her so it’s not exactly rocket science that her shitty view of women results in their adoration of her.

Men don’t want to know WHY they suffer. They suffer because women do. Once you liberate the half of the population that the other half has objectified, infantilized, fetishized and therefore oppressed, life will get a lot better.

Men don’t want that though. They want to keep control and domination. They want a fresh supply of women to subjugate economically so that a new crop of 14 year old girls will walk the streets as prostituted so their precious dicks have holes and then turn around and blame the women for it. They also want to ‘protect’ women which really means control them. They want patriarchy. It’s old. It’s been around for a long time. It’s comfortable having all the power. They won’t give it up without a serious fight and that’s what feminists have been doing for hundreds of years, nay thousands.

Women did not invent dowry. Women did not invent chivalry. Women do not benefit from ANY patriarchal practice. The fact that this Indian woman doesn’t recognize that is to her detriment. She’ll never properly address the situation. She’ll attempt to use a band-aid to cover a gaping wound.

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25 thoughts on “Oh I Got To Talk To an Indian Woman Alright, Just Not the Right Indian Woman

  1. Aw..that’s so cute. Look she’s getting attention and validation from a bunch of men, so she does not have to think of how lonely, miserable, and dumb she is, Also, her sexual rhetoric makes me question her sexual purity, something that these MRA’s in her cult should look into.

  2. Amazing how so much oppression and suffering exists, yet these women fight for a group that is superior in term of rights and societal advantages over 90% of others here on earth. Sick.

  3. I have a Indian feminist friend on twitter..this creep and some of her (all male) posse someimes dogpile her with word for word mra bullshite ..Bald-face lying, incoherent and violent is her general groups demeanor.

  4. I sent her an angry tweet. I love sending angry tweets to public figures I read doing terrible things on the Internet. Take that, person I don’t know in any way, shape or form and who doesn’t care who I am!

  5. Hi,
    I have a question:

    Exactly HOW, would life get better for a man like me? I’m Black and blue collar. How has Feminism been a benefit for me? Please explain? Thanks.

    O.

  6. You’re so Right ….Indian woman in your narrative..is the abused, violated woman who would cry always putting the blame on either patriarchy or men around her for all her miseries. Yes you did not meet the right indian woman as she doesn’t meet your cliched Indian woman standards that you can talk about in your white feminist gatherings. Wouldn’t it be good that you put screenshots of this interaction which you supposedly had with me?? Some evidence of your interaction with this strong Indian woman???

      • Even if i give into your argument, what makes you think a puppet of feminism like yourself is stronger than a puppet of patriarchy eh? Only someone like yourself who is a puppet of something would have a world view like that not me. And if this is your argument that comes from a belief that women have to be necessarily a puppet of something or someone…you only validate my opinion about you – that of putting women in a bracket where they always have to blame something and whine. Sorry you definitely met the wrong woman.

        • Oh gawd lady, uh, just the fact I have historical referents and facts on my side. Uh, ya know, things like women not being allowed to control their own reproduction and less than 100 years ago not being allowed to go to school, own a patent, giving up complete legal personhood upon marriage, being property of a man.

          Oh and if you’re not satisfied with history then today, as I said, lack of reproductive autonomy, unpaid work, pay gap, discrimination, rape, battering, lack of child care, online harassment, untested rape kits, victim blaming, street harassment…

          shall I keep going?

          Oh please, if you think women are ‘whining’ over not being able to live in a culture w/o male violence or owning their reproductive function and capacities then that just shows your complete ignorance.

          Got any more silly shit to say?

          Puppets of patriarchy are stronger because you have patriarchy on your side. I fight an uphill battle and I watch women like yourself join in just so you can get approval and crumbs from men.

          My job is definitely harder than yours is.

          • Um, the “posters” above are for real? I thought they were bots with terrible grammar skills. If they’re real, and there’s more than one of them, why do they all have the same shitty inability to make sense?

      • Even if i give into your argument, what makes you think a puppet of feminism like yourself is stronger than a puppet of patriarchy eh? Only someone like yourself who is a puppet of something would have a world view like that not me. And if this is your argument that comes from a belief that women have to be necessarily a puppet of something or someone…you only validate my opinion about you – that of putting women in a bracket where they always have to blame something and whine. Sorry you definitely met the wrong woman.

    • A handmaiden of men’s rights has appeared to accuse me of racism.

      Listen lady, don’t whine at me about the ‘white woman’ crap. I lived with an Indian family so yeah, my Naniji went to India for a few months a year to HELP WOMEN, not sit online and give credence to men’s rights activists. She was what you call an ACTIVIST, not an online cheerleader for women’s oppression.

      • So a woman who makes a living out of critiquing men’s rights activists sitting online and has absolutely nothing else to do is talking about activism and online cheerleader. …LOL. making a visit to India or visiting an Indian family doesn’t make you Indian or give you a perspective on what dowry was historically and what it has now come to be. You calling me a handmaiden tells me nothing more about you but that you are indeed a racist and also a female chauvinist who only pretends to have anything to do with women because your real self is revealed quite a bit with your usage of words. I wouldn’t even bother to talk about my work on ground or what I do for families who are in distress because you aren’t worth an explanation. But lemme again ask you to reproduce verbatim of the conversation you supposedly had with me where I wrote in exactly the way you have produced it on your blog. Care to?

        • Just writing online is all you think I do eh? Well, that shows just how ignorant you are. I can’t talk about what I do because men that you coddle and stroke target, attack, and drop their dox. So yeah, excuse me if I don’t toot my own horn while dealing with the violent men you cheerlead for.

          I didn’t visit and Indian family you weirdo, I LIVED with an Indian family. Not only did I live w/ an Indian family but my Naniji was an activist in DOWRY you silly person.

          LOL, keep calling me a racist if you think that will make your complete lack of comprehension any better.

          Don’t talk about your ‘work.’ I’ve already seen your ‘work’ and it’s a violation of women’s rights.

      • Well I can see the level of arguments on your blog where just because a woman is talking about men she gets questioned on her sexual purity. So the so called flag bearers of women’s sexual liberation start talking about sexual purity because they happen to confront a woman who doesn’t give in to their lines of rhetoric of female oppression….wow….never had encountered people with such profound thinking. You definitely met the wrong woman because I don’t pander to a line of thought to appease someone but I speak my mind LADY.

  7. HMQ, you should just block this twit. Also, I can’t take the poor-ass writing anymore.
    It’s a male MRA behind the fake-ass avatar, right?

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