This is the video I think that started it all. It’s hard to tell because this manfight has been going on for a while. It’s kinda like a bunch of domestic batterers where the fight blows up every so often. Dean Esmay went onto another dude’s Youtube show and began dissing a a whole bunch of MGTOW’s At the very beginning, Esmay says MGTOW’s are trying to kill him and Paul Elam. Esmay says he’s going to spit in a few guys faces. Esmay is off the wall describing a bunch of other violent males and he outright says they’re violent. The comment section is priceless.
Esmay’s mental health is in a fragile state. You can hear it in the video.
I also heard him admit he has to get up early in the morning and actually work. Elam really kept him as his bottom for a long time without paying him a cent. So much for brotherly love eh? Their blue balls are killing them all. I keep telling them to just go gay and get it over with. LOOOOL
Here’s a comment by a popular MGTOW on the video. CLICK TO ENLARGE
If you didn’t listen to the video there’s some very funny shit in it. They talk about a guy who was on a date and ran into another Manosphere guy who then grilled him about being on a date, because you can’t date women if you’re in the Manosphere. Also, Esmay makes a quip about how women are spermjacking. It’s hilarious.
Dean Esmay’s stint away from his bottom buddy Elam didn’t last long. Esmay’s mental health is deteriorating and Elam is using him to attack journalists and now other parts of the Manosphere. The biggest man fight is between MRA’s and MGTOW’s. They’re both part of the Manosphere and both groups hate women but MGTOW’s are the little boys who claim they don’t want women in their lives while constantly talking about women. They constantly come to blows over how MGTOW got started online and whether MGTOW’s can get married. The underlying problem though is who is going to get money.
It’s basically a dick wagging contest between Elam and MGTOW. MGTOW’s can’t stand Elam and his stupid site but will always show up on his site to scream at him on cue whenever Paul pokes them. Esmay even made a video to start a fight with them.
Esmay is claiming MGTOW started on forums and not on Youtube. I swear, they’re having a meltdown over this stupid point. Who the fuck cares who invented it? They do. And they’re ready to defend their positions to the death. Esmay is accusing MGTOW’s of ‘abusive lying’ when they claim MGTOW started on Youtube. Esmay runs to the first insult no man wants to hear:
To be blunt, all that is an incredibly womanish lie; it’s dense, multilayered, and carefully crafted so that every reasonable discussion of it can be torpedoed by changing the subject, shifting the goalposts, and other Rationalization Hamster moves. Those who defend this lie, this indefensible false allegation leveled at innocent men, are also guilty of marginalizing the work of other Men Going Their Own Way who are certainly not named Paul Elam, and some of whom can’t even stand Paul Elam.
Dean called them all women. Patriarchy 101 anyone? It gets worse. Not only are these Youtubish MGTOW’s womanly manipulators and false rape accusers but they also must come from single mother homes!
I honestly suspect that most of those promulgating this conspiracy narrative are the products of single mother homes, because they’re such girlish brats so much of the time, and their narrative is such pathetic gossipy schoolgirl drama and backstabby lies.
What it’s really about is Elam’s fading popularity and a last gasp. He wants numbers on his site and so he’s starting a fight with MGTOW’s claiming his dick is bigger. He truly wants MGTOW back on his site but his interpersonal skills are atrocious.
Here’s reality: Men’s Rights sites such as Anti-Misandry, Nice Guys, A Voice for Men, and others, have a much larger audience than all the most prominent YouTube MGTOW combined
Nah nah nah nah nah! AVFM’s dick is bigger than yours!
Now here is the truth about Men Going Their Own Way: from the very beginning, MGTOW have recognized that Men’s Rights Activism in the political sphere—lobbying legislatures, staging protests and demonstrations, signing petitions, etc.—was going to take possibly decades to succeed.
When have they done any of that? BWAHAHAHAH! The last thing I remember Dean Esmay getting off his couch for was when he accused a video game blog of abusing him and his son.
After all, MRAs created the Men Going Their Own Way logo, promoted the name, the acronym and the philosophy.
Hear that bros? It was Elam that got MGTOW going. Elam is our overlord. You will be assimilated!
You see MGTOW’s claim to swear off women but it’s like a little boy whining ‘I’m going away now. Do you see me going away? PAY ATTENTION TO ME WOMEN! I’M LEAVINGGG!
Esmay admits the Manosphere is violent but this next comment has a deeper meaning. He’s dissing JohntheOther and his live in wife Diana Davison
Yes dangerous. Not to society, but to themselves and their followers. They’re a bunch of damned fools who are going to get themselves or their friends killed. And yes, I do mean that literally.
Yes, that includes your favorite YouTuber, no matter how many subscribers he or she has. And by the way, there’s a good chance that your favorite YouTube “MGTOW” peddling the “MGTOW can definitionally never marry” bullshit is cohabiting full-time with a woman at this very moment. Have you tried asking him? You should, and then if he admits he is cohabiting full-time with a woman—some of the biggest names are cohabiting with women–ask him which legal sources he consulted before he reached his conclusion that cohabiting is safer than marriage.
It’s so serious to these fuckwits. They think living with a woman is worse than marrying one. But I digress. This bullshit about marriage has nothing to do with the dick wagging. It’s really just a bid for attention because AVFM is going down the drain. If it wasn’t about marriage Elam would find something else to fight about.
One guy made a video claiming he was leaving MGTOW and he loved his wife. He calls the Manosphere stupid and self destructive. I don’t know if he’s serious or just wanking about Esmay.
Now we just sit back and wait for the fainting. I’ll update this when the hilarity ensues.
It’s ensuing on Youtube. This TLDR dude did a video whereby he’s having a man fight with another Manosphere dude who is accusing him of hijacking MGTOW as well as accusing JohntheOther of hijacking it too. Johntheother responded to this with a video claiming he’s not hijacking anything and doesn’t want to dick wave. I don’t recommend you watch any of these silly videos unless you’re doing something worthwhile and have it on in the background. I just find it funny how they’re stomping around trying to sit atop the shit pile and be the big man.
Ultimately, this is about who is going to get the money. There’s a ton of angry guys out there that want to throw their money away at other men to get their misogynist jollies off. This is why patriarchy is a failure and why wars exist. Men are so consumed with greed over who is getting what donations that they all attack each other.