Jim Norton Is a Horrible Human Being

 

Jim Norton: Momma’s Little Monster

Male supremacy is so often on display that we get numb to it sometimes. It’s that metaphor about a goldfish not knowing what water is because it’s surrounded by it for its entire life. Misogyny is all around us, all the time. Many of us have to ‘turn off’ to take a break from it, like I’ve done this summer, only to have one male supremacist asshole  knock me back into consciousness. For me, that’s Jim Norton.

Jim wrote a long mansplain in TIME called ‘In Defense of Johns’ about how he’s a nice guy who pays prostituted women and girls to do whatever he likes. Jim is so proud of this fact, he thinks he deserves a parade down 5th Ave in New York.

The interesting thing about the very beginning of his piece is that he imagines his parents hiding while he’s on a parade float getting confetti thrown his way. You see, Jim knows somewhere in his empty head that prostitution isn’t good for women and girls. He just doesn’t give a shit.

‘I envisioned myself being carted down New York City’s Fifth Avenue on the back of a flatbed truck, waving to cheering fans as confetti rained down on me and my disappointed parents hid behind a mailbox.’

Jim repeats every debunked claim made by liberals on the left: that prostitution should be legal because it’s ‘safer’, that it can be regulated, that ‘more security’ works. We know that these claims are bullshit. One serious look at any country that has ‘regulated’ prostitution instantly lays these claims to shame.

He trots out the ‘less rapes’ argument too. Inherent in that very argument is an admission that men are monsters, that they’re brainless predatory animals who will rape if they don’t get to buy women and girls off the street to abuse and torment.

‘By keeping prostitution illegal because we find it morally objectionable, we allow (or, more accurately, you allow) sex workers to constantly be put into dangerous situations. Studies have shown that rapes and STDs dropped drastically from 2003 to 2009 in Rhode Island after the state accidentally legalized it.’

Let’s talk about shame for a minute. Jim says he’s not ashamed that he can’t have an equal sexual encounter with a woman who can freely consent. Jim thinks that when he gives a prostituted female some money that she’s freely consenting. Jim thinks you ‘buy’ consent. Most sweatshop owners agree with him.  Once you give a woman a $20, her systematic oppression, her lifelong struggles with poverty, drug addiction and childhood trauma magically disappear. Awww, Jim’s such a ‘Nice Guy.’

Jim is particularly mad at the Nordic Model, the only model designed to help women and girls escape their horrific lives being prostituted. Johns get arrested and fined when they attempt to pay a woman or girl for rape.

‘Law-enforcement stings designed to shame men who pay for sex are nothing more than the state blowing its own morality horn.’

What do you mean he can’t buy a sex slave? I bet Jimmy is a Libertarian. Poor diddums.

I’m also sick to death of lefty men dismissing the harms in prostitution by claiming there’s no moral argument. There IS a moral argument. It’s the argument about female human beings having rights not to be sexually preyed upon and damaged en masse because they happen to be in the lowest class. It’s like saying poor people are supposed to be given slave wages and their bodies and minds broken because large corporations need to have cheap labour. Lefty men just brush it off as ‘Psssh! Morality!’

‘If these men are anything like me, they might simply feel more comfortable with prostitutes.’

Trust me Jim, you’re not alone. Plenty of men are male supremacists just. like. you. The reason men like you are more comfortable is because you don’t have to interact with an equal. You see Jim, women and girls who aren’t in the prostituted underclass won’t tolerate the abuse. That’s why so many Johns are married or have girlfriends. These men can only abuse and degrade a destitute woman.

Many middle class white women take to social media pronouncing how choicy, choice, choice it is to be anally raped day in and day out for $10 bucks a time. We here at Mancheeze call that Liberal Feminism aka Men’s Rights Activism. It’s the brainless assholes like you that promote it.

‘I never pick them up to be abusive. I always feel extraordinarily loving and close to them. When I first began soliciting sex for money, it never occurred to me that some of them are possibly forced into prostitution or have abusive pimps. I must have known it deep down on an intellectual level but hadn’t witnessed anything to confirm it.’

I’ve never seen an albatross up close and personal Jim, but I know they exist.

‘The only experience I’ve had where an element of violence was present was driving on 48th Street in New York and talking to a girl through my passenger window. (A big part of my addiction is the ritualistic aspect, and for some reason I only liked to pick up prostitutes who talked to me through the passenger window.) As we were speaking, a van full of girls stopped, and a guy I assume was her pimp bounced her across the hood of my car and threw her in the van.’

Jim likes ritualized submission from women. That’s why he loves them coming up to his car window. Jim feels dominant and manly when impoverished, drug addicted and psychologically traumatized women chase after his car. It makes him feel wanted. His mother must be proud she raised a son like him. If I had known my son was going to turn out the way Jim did I would’ve proudly aborted.

After Jim admits he’s seen the abuse, he carries on shamelessly promoting the enslavement and degradation of women and girls. Jim, like most men, simply doesn’t care they’re contributing to half the human race being robbed of human dignity. All Jim cares about is himself and his feelz.

You’re a shit heel Jim. I’m not done with you either.

 

 

Here’s his crappy article:

 

In Defense of Johns

Christopher Lovenguth Jim Norton

I’m not ashamed to pay for sex—and other men shouldn’t be either

As a man who has spent an embarrassing amount of money on prostitutes and various other sexual encounters, I was excited when I heard about a “National Day of Johns,” because I thought I was being honored.

I envisioned myself being carted down New York City’s Fifth Avenue on the back of a flatbed truck, waving to cheering fans as confetti rained down on me and my disappointed parents hid behind a mailbox. A silly (yet understandable) mistake on my part, as the National Day of Johns was a celebration of the arrests of hundreds of men in a series of sex stings in 15 states. The fact that I’ve never been arrested in one of these stings should convince even the most ardent of atheists that miracles are indeed possible.

I suppose you could say I am the consummate john. I’m loyal, I’m dedicated, and I will always come back — even as it seems as though efforts to shame johns are on a national upswing throughout the country.

I cannot even fathom a guess as to how much money — let alone time — I’ve spent on paid sex in the past 25 years. Although I can tell you that when Charlie Sheen confessed he’d spent $50,000 in one year, I nodded my head and saw it as an achievable goal. Because I’ve never actually tallied the dollar amount of my sex addiction, my therapist tells me I should — her logic being that a concrete cost would make it more definitive and its consequences more tangible.

But really, perhaps the most shameful thing I can admit is this: I’m not really ashamed. And neither should any of these other (unmarried) johns who have been arrested.

If these men are anything like me, they might simply feel more comfortable with prostitutes. I never pick them up to be abusive. I always feel extraordinarily loving and close to them. When I first began soliciting sex for money, it never occurred to me that some of them are possibly forced into prostitution or have abusive pimps. I must have known it deep down on an intellectual level but hadn’t witnessed anything to confirm it.

Until I did.

The only experience I’ve had where an element of violence was present was driving on 48th Street in New York and talking to a girl through my passenger window. (A big part of my addiction is the ritualistic aspect, and for some reason I only liked to pick up prostitutes who talked to me through the passenger window.) As we were speaking, a van full of girls stopped, and a guy I assume was her pimp bounced her across the hood of my car and threw her in the van.

This is why I’m a firm believer that prostitution should be legalized and pimps should be thrown down an elevator shaft.

Law-enforcement stings designed to shame men who pay for sex are nothing more than the state blowing its own morality horn. Being a comedian who is single allows me a luxury most johns don’t have, which is the freedom to discuss the topic openly. And not from a case-study point of view but from the honest point of view of someone who has spent the equivalent of a Harvard Law School education on purchasing sex.

By keeping prostitution illegal because we find it morally objectionable, we allow (or, more accurately, you allow) sex workers to constantly be put into dangerous situations. Studies have shown that rapes and STDs dropped drastically from 2003 to 2009 in Rhode Island after the state accidentally legalized it. The American Journal of Epidemiology showed that the homicide rate for prostitutes is 50 times that for those in the next most dangerous job for a woman, working in a liquor store. You don’t need a master’s in sociology to understand it would be much safer for sex workers if they were permitted to work in places that provided adequate security. Legalizing prostitution would also alleviate the fear a sex worker may have about reporting a john’s abusive behavior because of the risk of arrest.

The illegal aspect of prostitution has never deterred me, nor would legalizing it cause me to engage in it more.

The decision people make to have sex for a living would undoubtedly confuse and repulse a large part of the population. But in a free society, people must be allowed to make choices for themselves that are incomprehensible to others. By keeping prostitution illegal and demonizing all of its parties, we (you) are empowering pimps and human traffickers and anyone else who wants to victimize sex workers because they feel helpless under the law.

Give sex workers rights. Give johns a break.

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35 thoughts on “Jim Norton Is a Horrible Human Being

  1. There appears to be a cognitive dissonance with liberals when anything comes up that just so happens to match up with right wing rhetoric. The minute that someone who isn’t a right wing nutjob says something like prostitution is bad because it treats women and girls as objects, they instantly think it’s only the right wing!

    I understand more than anyone that the right wing seeks to control healthy sexuality. Trust me. I used to be a right winger. But then I woke up and left it. With all of that said, prostitution and porn are not healthy sexual outlets at all! They’re actually making it worse!

    They create the two extremes regarding sexuality, but they do the same thing. They treat women as objects, but in different ways. Neither is a good thing for women!

    This man should be ashamed of himself, as should the other liberal men and handmaiden women who agree with him!

    • So-called liberals or the “left,” especially the men, worship sexual liberation. Sexual liberation is completely misogynist. These mostly men on the left are very anti-feminist and always have been. They know that sexual liberation has nothing to do with women’s autonomy in and out of the bedroom but about easy sexual access without any regard for the feelings of women. They supported greater access to contraception and abortion not because of them being necessary to women’s autonomy but because it made sexual access of women easier. I remember all too well the 1960s and especially the 1970s, when the “anything goes” nonsense ran amuck, and you had talk shows like Phil Donahue and others glorify porn and prostitution and peddled the nonsense that if you were opposed to both you were a “prude” and “anti-sex.” The reality, of course, is porn and prostitution ARE anti-sex and human rights abuses, which is why real feminists oppose both. Sexual liberation and women’s rights are not similar but are antithetical to each other.

    • I have a friend who often says “the right believes women should be private property, whereas the left believes we should be public property”.

      There is no use looking to “the left” to end patriarchy.

  2. TIME Magazine published this promotion of degradation and slavery? I can’t believe I just bought a copy from the previous month. Never again.

    • Hello!

      Yes, TIME published this shit. I saw Julie Bindel say this guy belongs on a deserted island, cut off from society. I even tweeted TIME and told them I hated this crap.

      It’s the boldest male supremacist crap I’ve ever read. I know men think the same way as he does but he was given a typically respected platform to do it.

      Fucking asshole he is.

  3. “Give sex workers rights. Give johns a break.”

    Only a misogynist dickhead could think that a policy change would impact women and men equally. He doesn’t choke or slap women around, so that makes him a stand up dude? Just a regular nice guy who gets hard at the thought of women placing his sexual gratification above their own? Here he makes it clear that “sex worker rights” rhetoric is really about advocating for pimps and johns to carry on preying on women who wouldn’t do any of these things if they didn’t involve money. What they’re saying without any hesitation is that they have no intention of controlling themselves. They’re actually proud to be known as men who violate women and girls because they think it’s the responsibility of females to fulfill their sick power fantasies. I don’t care how extreme this sounds – men like Jim deserve to be sodomized and left for dead in a dumpster, and the men who support him should be locked up with these rapists so they can all enjoy each other’s company and leave women and girls alone.

    • I totally agree with you Lav. My scenario of what I’d like to do to Jim involves a scene from Sons of Anarchy where a rapist got his nuts chopped off with a knife and placed in a little baggie and given to the victim (a minor girl) and her family.

      Julie Bindel tweeted that Jim needs to stranded on an island in the middle of nowhere. Julie is too nice imho.

    • Don’t worry, I’ll get to it. I’ve had ovarian problems and dental problems (again). I’ve been struggling the last couple months. I tend to wander off into the wildnerness when I’m down.

      • Sorry to hear that. Maybe just call August a play month and rest a little more? BTW looks like the page for Pizzey’s fundraising has been taken down…

        • I have to have an ultrasound. I’ve been having bad pain over my left ovary. I had a surgery in my late 20’s for endometriosis and I was told my left ovary bleeds a lot when I ovulate. However, this last period I had was so painful that it must be investigated. I’m dreading my next period since I haven’t had pain like this in 20 years. Don’t worry. I know you’re trying to contact me.

          I’m doing that Youtube series on Game of Thrones. I really want to do that. Of course I’ll post the series here as well. I hope you’re well and your sis is too.

          • I’ve had these problems all summer. My bite is off because I lost some of my back teeth so all the pressure is going to my front teeth and it’s already taken its toll on one tooth that now needs a root canal b/c of the pressure.

            I’m having dental issues big time and my insurance won’t renew until 2017 so I’m going all these months in pain just waiting for my insurance to renew.

            Then I started having a lot of pain down near my left ovary about a month ago and so a whole new set of medical exploration has begun.

            The dental issues could be easily solved if my insurance would pay now instead of having to wait. My reproductive issues are just starting so it’s all about discovery!

            You get older and you start to fall apart!

  4. Hey HMQ. Nice to see you writing again. Sorry you’re not feeling well!

    Jim Norton is an absolute utter piece of shit, and Time is disgusting for publishing him.

    I’ve seen Jim Norton here and there, on HBO. I tried to watch him one time and could only stand about 5 minutes. He made me sick and I absolutely hate him.

    A guy I dated liked Jim Norton. This same guy enjoyed degrading porn and was a complete piece of shit misogynist who had a small penis and so was mad at the world and had huge sexual hangups and trouble with his erection. Of course. That’s what happens when you watch porn. Anyway, that should have been a red flag–his liking Jim Norton. We women are so used to misogyny — just like you said — what’s water said the young fish to the older fish? We don’t want to see it and just how bad it is so we try to brush it off or accept is normal or just the way it is.

    FUCK YOU Jim Norton. You should be ashamed of yourself and I hope you burn in hell.

  5. Just my two cents here as man on this blog. For those who don’t know, James Joseph Norton was the “third mic” on a radio program titled Opie & Anthony (real names Gregg “Opie” Hughes and Anthony Cumia), until the latter was fired from the show for getting into an altercation with a woman on the street and going on a tirade about her on social media. The show is still airing BTW, minus Cumia and re-titled Opie & Jim Norton.

    Their main appeal as a radio program is that they are a show about men. And not in the typical format where men just babble with each other about sports or any other distraction, or circle-jerk like MRAs do about their own egos. These men have no filter in airing out their thoughts and opinions about women, while disparagingly calling them “holes”.

    Jim Norton himself is an admitted porn addict and tranny-lover who talks about women violently and sexually in every one of his tirades to a bout of laughter from his co-hosts, their staff, and the audience that listens to their tripe.

    If anyone wants to know in depth what these men are all about, especially Norton, clips of their show are all over YouTube by typing in “opie & anthony” in the search bar. As I am typing this, they have probably found this blog and are having a long shit show ridiculing you ladies and a “white knight” such as myself.

    • I’ve seen the show, unfortunately. Yep, they use the word “holes” a lot to refer to women’s anatomy. But see, this is revenge of the ugly, misogynist doods. Howard Stern, another ugly, misogynistic ass inspired his daughters to be sexually conservative and wary of men because of the way their dad talks on air about women. These guys are like the fugly protagonists in porn — which is why porn is so popular with losers who hate themselves and can’t actually interact with women like they’re human beings.

      Did I mention these guys are all fugly? Well, they are. Oh, and you guys aren’t funny, not talented at all. If Society weren’t ruled by patriarchy and capitalism, you’d be tagged as mental deficient and sent to padded rooms.

    • Apparently somebody created an algorithm which determined the most toxic subreddits on Reddit and surprise, surprise, /r/OpieandAnthony was up near the top.

  6. Aw, Jimmy the white knight is going to throw a pimp down an elevator shaft, you guys!

    But seriously, Jimmy, why no love for your friendly neighborhood pimp. Has he no thanks for his hard work, for the tedious hours he spends convincing teenage runaways that he’s their boyfriend? Intimidating foster kids, offering drugs to addicts, hiding passports, his work is never done. All so that you have a fresh and varied supply of young women. Maybe there should be a Pimp Appreciation Day too.

  7. Hello again. I don’t know if you have ever heard of the show ‘America’s Next Top Model’. It’s Pavlovian propaganda designed to encourage young and impressionable women to aspire to become sexualized human mannequins, a.k.a “models”.

    As you probably know, the creator of this show, Tyra Banks, is a world-renowned model herself and premier collaborator in the system of capitalistic male supremacy. And In an attempt to appear “equitable” to both sexes, male contestants have been allowed to participate in this freak show, not only in their revealed nature, but cosplaying as women under the farce of femininity.

    http://www.etonline.com/news/174832_top_model_just_crowned_its_first_transgender_winner/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/fashion/gigi-gorgeous-transgender-youtube-makeup-tips.html?_r=0

    None of this news is recent by the way, but still relevant as female erasure from society and history continues, as this show is syndicated on television internationally. The “fashion industry” is Ground Zero for female objectification and sexualization, and one of the things that needs to go pronto if women ever hope to achieve their liberation.

    • I’m responding to your comment a little late in the game, but your last paragraph is quite interesting and making me think about what would happen if trans “women” took over the fashion industry as models. I don’t know if that would be good or bad. Men ultimately want to objectify and consume female bodies so I’m not sure if trans women will make that many inroads except as a novelty.

      • @Cassandra — I apologize for my late reply. If the trans-mannequins took over the “fashion” industry, young women and girls won’t have to starve themselves and put their bodies on display anymore for a paycheck. Nor would they be subjected to the whims of creepy photographers.

        And it will become more apparent to women that society’s idealized images of them advertised in fashion magazines and plastered all over billboards are detrimental to their well-being.

        Then maybe women and the small minority of men who are devoted to advancing their daughters’ and sisters’ lots in life can put more effort into tearing down the illusion of “femininity” if it ever gets to a point where men in drag become the faces of “women’s fashion”.

        It’s ironic that the very group of people (males) who have forced females into a gendered box of submission and objectification are acting out the same idealized behaviors and characteristics they want in women.

        Like the the strutting male peacock with vibrant feathers looking for a female of his species to violate, or the lion who tussles his mane and licks his claws all day while the lioness does all the hunting and fighting, this “trans” fad has only intensified men’s narcissism.

        And like the lioness in relation to her male counterpart, the average woman walking down the street commands a stronger and and much more confident presence than any of these transdudes who have a petty view of what it means to be “feminine”.

        • @Richard Rich— Thank you for your very well-written and fun-to-read reply.

          Yes, the trans contagion has most definitely intensified men’s narcissism. I continue to be fascinated and horrified by it; patriarchy having reached a point where it must re-define material reality in an attempt to slow down the liberation of women and of gay people. I simply do not understand how so many people can’t see it for what it is.

      • It will never, ever happen to any great extent. Men as a group will not allow it. The existence of fashion and especially “beauty” is not for women but for men. The purpose of it is to get men hard. Het men are not going to get hard looking at men impersonating women. They want the real thing. End of story.

        • @Susan Nunes — You’d be surprised what men can get off on. It’s not the women themselves that men find attractive. But the illusion of femininity. Of appearing and acting submissive, being as sexualized and debased as possible, and deferring preferential treatment.

          This is how men have idealized women for millennia and they have no problems projecting this shit onto transvestites who are “feminine enough” for them, which is why so many of them hate feminists, especially lesbians who refuse to fit the bill for what men wish woman to be.

          And it’s also why heterosexuality (coming from a “straight” male) is one big lie. It’s predicated on the abuse and subordination of the female sex, as lesbian radical feminists have pointed out consistently.

          Men live entirely in the physical and have a complete inability to see themselves the way women see them, which is why they are hopelessly deluded about their own potency (or alleged victimhood) and force women into their superficial box of fake gender roles.

          And women are going to have no choice but to overthrow the system completely, because men are only going to get more aggressive in their hatred of women in the years to come, and their brainwashing of younger, impressionable men (like myself when I was in my early 20’s) into their collective until they are forced to yield.

          • I can vouch for this Richard. I was just in a liberal chat called Majority Report. Another woman in the chat was talking about not wanting men in women’s bathrooms and when I stuck up for her the lefty males went INSANE. We were called TERF bigots who needed to be banned from the chat. It’s all about femininity and debasement. Another couple women in the chat mildly stuck up for us two women so it was a total of FOUR women in a chat full of LIBERAL MALES.

            They went absolutely off the rails.

          • @House Mouse Queen — The males on the political Left only use liberalism to placate their own misogyny. It’s the men who ‘pretend’ that they are women and the men who pretend to care about women who are a much bigger threat to women themselves.

            And I don’t mean to bring the racial angle into this, but white males have no business involving themselves in liberalism AT ALL. They only represent themselves at the expense of everyone else, while claiming to be “progressive”.

            White men hate white women, and are only using minorities (like myself) and homosexuals to go after Feminism, and tricking the rest of us into believing that it’s just a cabal of “privileged straight white women”, when Women’s Liberation has always been a global initiative.

          • I know liberal males hate women. I want to post this article about the US Election that perfectly displays the misogyny on the right. https://rewire.news/article/2016/10/09/presidents-misogynists-took-long-derail-trump-train/

            I’m very engrossed in the current election and the fact that Trump’s misogyny is so open, while we watch the GOP stand behind him. I can’t wait for the critique of lefty males to go mainstream. I’m still hopeful us radfems will get some positive press instead of being dismissed as TERFBIGOTS. There are a lot of women who don’t even know what radfeminism is who don’t want men in their bathrooms. This will go mainstream.

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