Live Chat Comments From Elam’s Date With Roosh As Promised

I promised I would publish the live chat comments from the hangout Elam did with Roosh. The ideas these men have about women are absolutely primitive. Nay, they’re not even primitive. They are utterly disgusting.

One commenter, Andrew P,  was intent on getting all the men in the chat to understand the right way to treat women.

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There is no secretive misogyny from Patrick. These men are totally honest about it.

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Chip Whitley has a plan for women, and that’s popping out kids and being chained up in the kitchen.

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A surprising comment by Dan Perrins who questioned these Conservative Roosh followers about their ideas, to no avail.

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Clockworkelves doesn’t want women in any leadership positions because it makes him sad.

4Chip Whitley reminds the men that equality isn’t good in a marriage, but it has nothing to do with those evil Muslim darkies and their Sharia law.17

The hope we had for Dan Perrins is quickly shattered as the dudes share their plans for wives who have had kids and gain extra weight.

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The next time dudes say there’s no such thing as patriarchy, remind them of this post. The male need to control and dominate women is a conscious process of men, not an unconscious one. I see neoliberal feminists cave in to MRA’s on this point. They continually remind men that patriarchy isn’t purposeful and that men don’t even know they’re doing it.

They clearly do know.

Aurini was also present in the hangout and shared.

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Finally, the men admit they don’t use their brains. The men’s rights movement is really about their dicks. Truest shit ever.

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The Great Fishing Expedition 2016

Men are always thinking up new ways to intimidate and harm women. 2016 will be no different. We’ve come to expect this from the men’s rightsers but it also comes from transactivists, who are aligning themselves closer to MRA’s than ever before. The TransAdvocate has started a new 2016 feature called Conversations. Two men, John Stoltenberg and Cristan Williams, editor of the Transadvocate, are attempting to rewrite radical feminism, to make it more palatable for men. *yawn*

I found out about this new development on Twitter, when I came across Lucyfire’s tweet.

Cristan Williams: a man bent on rewriting radical feminism to suit himself

I find even the name of this new feature hilarious because women aren’t part of the conversation and with all the transactivists no platforming radical feminists it busts the hypocrisy meter. Maybe they mean all the conversations they won’t be having while they silence and intimidate women? At least that would be honest.

I read their description of this project:

It is an encounter between ‘old school’ Second Wave feminists of all birth assignments who are not adverse to learning something new,

Learning something new? There is nothing new here. We’re not going to redesign feminist theory to fit your fetishes. This is talking down to women in the most patronizing way possible.

‘Birth assignment’ is another wacko term which shows these men know nothing about radical feminism. People aren’t assigned, they’re born either male or female. Why would a man want a uterus if ‘biology doesn’t matter?’ Yet plenty of transactivists (men) are rallying for uterus transplants.

As an aside on uterus transplants, there is strict criteria that the recipient must be female. In fact, in the 1930’s a transdude died from the procedure. No male will ever have a functioning uterus, ever. These types of experiments show, in themselves, that biology is a THING and that it matters. Radical feminists know it matters, in the sense that our female biology is personal AND political.

Stoltenberg is repudiating radical feminist theory and using a dead woman who can’t speak for herself (but who did), to do it. Stoltenberg is rewriting Andrea’s positions. Taking women’s hard work and using it beat other women over the head is not feminist but it’s just what we’ve come to expect from men.

When I asked Stoltenberg why he agreed to collaborate on this Project, he said, “Andrea Dworkin, my life partner of 31 years, repudiated sex essentialism, meaning she did not believe there are innate characteristics that define us. Instead, she believed, we are a ‘multisexed species.’ Since Andrea’s death in 2005,  I have become increasingly concerned that the radical feminism I first learned from her was being misappropriated in the name of ‘real womanhood’ in ways that not only shun and derogate trans women but also betray the fundamental radical feminist insight that male supremacy is premised on the lethal fiction of ‘real manhood.’”

The only expected and predictable betrayal here is from male supremacists like Williams and Stoltenberg.

Many radical feminists have heard Stoltenberg’s lazy revisions of Dworkin’s work and there are many articles that expose his opportunism and fictions. In fact, Derrick Jensen called him out but good in this response he did on Gender Detective.

In the project proposal, Williams linked an article by the TransAdvocate called ‘Sex Essentialism, Terfs, and Smelly Vaginas.’ I won’t link it because it deserves no attention. The title itself displays the misogyny we’re all familiar with. It actually sounds like one of Elam’s titles. The funny thing is Williams also lives in Houston, just like Elam. What is it about Houston? Is it the water?

When I first came across this new project I got this heavy feeling in my stomach. I had to think about it for a few minutes and then the light bulb moment happened.

These two men have taken this right out of the MRA playbook. Obnoxiousness rules the day. Their hope is to anger women and start a fight. The key will be for women not to play. We don’t have to get angry. We simply have to ignore them and this entire project will fizzle out. No serious radical feminist will get involved with it.

Stoltenberg, in a bid for attention, went back to Jensen’s old article and left a comment announcing this project. In fact, he’s going to all the radfem blogs he’s aware of and leaving a copy/paste comment announcing this new project. It’s the Great Fishing Expedition 2016 with two men bent on harassing women and getting us to acquiesce. Don’t fall for it.

Sure, we can laugh at them while they do their mantrum and fling shit from their diapers but we don’t have to respond and give them what they want.

I’ll be watching from the sidelines as liberal feminists kowtow to these men and pretend they’re radical while doing men’s dirty work for them, which is exactly what’s going to happen.

So You Don’t Think White Male Privilege Exists?

Well, I got two words for you: Ethan Couch. This young white male got away with killing FOUR people while driving drunk. His defense? I’m a wealthy white dude who was raised with complete entitlement so I don’t know the difference between right and wrong.

The fucking judge bought it. Apparently, Ethan Couch is suffering from a new white male disease called Affluenza. He’s got so much privilege his brain is completely incapable of realizing that murdering people is wrong.

I bet that all the women who read my blog have a story about men they’ve come across that have been plagued with Affluenza. It’s actually quite a common disease that infects white males and the white male judges who let these entitled manchildren off with a slap on the wrist.

White male crime is often overlooked because they’ve got PRIVILEGE. White collar crime perpetrated by white males is hardly ever prosecuted. It’s the old boys club at work. This is why slavery took a war to abolish. White men weren’t going to give up their privilege that easily.

This perpetual whining from white males online, otherwise known as the Manosphere, is simply the white male getting a tiny bit of privilege taken away from him and he notices it immediately, having temper tantrums and rolling around on the floor screaming like a toddler because his sister outwitted him.

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Ethan Couch: the face of white male privilege

Whenever an MRA says there’s no such thing as white male privilege you can point him to Ethan Couch. He’ll say it’s a one off but we all know it’s not.

So what happened when Ethan got a slap on the wrist and minor probation? His Mommy took him to Mexico to hide out. She dyed his hair black and they had a mini vacation. Mommy stuck up for her murdering son.

This is crucial because many of the women in the men’s movement have sons. Of course, these manchildren can do no wrong. This is why Ted Bundy’s mother continued to stand up for him until the night before his execution when Ted told his Mommy over the phone that yes, he really did kill and rape all those women.

Ethan Couch didn’t care that he was on probation and hosted another alcohol fueled party that was posted online. Flaunting his entitlement for the world to see, little Ethan didn’t think he’d get in trouble for anything. Because there’s been such a public outcry, officials finally decided to arrest him for violation of his probation. They found him with his dear Mommy in Mexico and brought them back to the US to face the consequences, if any.

I’m sure the little brat thinks nobody can touch him and that this will just be another slap on the wrist. It might very well turn out to be just that.

 

 

 

 

Happy Holidays Open Thread

Thank you all for another great year here at Mancheeze. Next year will be another great one for us. I’m staying positive, no matter what.

I’m noticing many more transactivists attaching themselves to the men’s rights movement. People call them black knights. I don’t find it surprising that trans males are heavily involved in the misogyny of the MRM. They are male themselves and many of them are sexually attracted to other men. It’s no different than the misogyny we see from gay men although the elements behind it might be different. What do you think?

Paul Elam just interviewed Theryn Meyer, a male who thinks he’s female. Theryn is part of Simon Fraser University’s men’s group. That’s my alma mater and I’m sadly watching on the sidelines as my Uni deals with these guys.

The Women’s Centre and Student Union has already gotten involved after Karen Straugn delivered a silly lecture about ‘toxic femininity.’ The Canadian Association For Equality put her speech up on their channel. It’s clear the men’s group isn’t welcome on campus and they’re causing the same problems that Sage Gerard caused on Kennesaw Uni campus in the US. You can read about Sage Gerard aka Victor Zen in my back catalog. [1] [2]

Elam kisses his ass throughout the entire interview. The thing is, many MRA’s recognize that Theryn isn’t a woman and they say so. I find it hilarious that Theryn has joined a movement whereby the members can’t stand him. It makes no difference because Elam is thrilled to have Theryn’s face to point to to bleat that his movement is progressive.

A few months ago, Paul was making videos desperately trying to get gay men to join him. That didn’t go so well. Elam was so uncomfortable talking to gay men that he let slip aggressive and homophobic comments. He only made a couple videos on this ‘Straight Eye For the Queer Guy’ series and threw in the towel.

The new year will bring more media attention on MRA’s, simply for click bait. The media knows that MRA’s sit in front of their computers all day searching for articles and infesting the comment sections with violent and downright stupid comments. Making money is the idea. If these media outlets wanted to get really savvy they’d start putting up ads about penis enlargement on MRA articles. Talk about ad money!

I want all of you to have a wonderful break and I’ll be posting throughout the Holidays since Chanukah is now over. Enjoy the open thread. We haven’t talked in a while.

Much love,

Mancheeze

 

Terrible Entitlement

I did a Youtube search for ‘men’s rights’ videos made in the last week. I found this MGTOW video and it clearly displays what the men’s rights movement is all about: sexual access and control over women.

This is the locus of the entire reactionary men’s rights movement. Men view women as sexual objects to be used up. You all know men hate women who have sex outside of the feminine gender training that tells girls to be ignorant about their own sex drives and to disassociate with their bodies, to give control of their bodies over to men.

This is why women are treated badly. Our bodies aren’t supposed to belong to us and when a man can’t get access to women sexually, something he feels entitled to, he becomes a ranting misogynist.

I can’t repeat this enough. This is why prostitution is a thing. If you give all the socioeconomic power to one sex and nothing to the other, you have a breeding ground for the abuse that is the sex industry. It’s all about keeping women subordinate through patriarchy. Little girls need to reject gender training and to take back control of their lives and bodies.

In the beginning of the video, this dude is hung up on women’s vaginas. That’s all he wants. He dehumanizes women and tells everyone in very clear language, all he wants is access to women’s bodies. Since his entitlement is such that he thinks women are just out there for his choosing, he’s in a rage because women are starting to throw off gender training and live their lives for themselves.

Every issue that the Manosphere bleats about comes back to this central theme. Every single one.

Think about how MRA’s talk about rape. Men typically use alcohol to rape women. It’s one of their common strategies. In this day and age, the discussion of how men do this is front and center and men are angry that it’s being addressed. The spotlight is shining on them and their propensity to rape through alcohol. This is why MRA’s whine about women who drink around men. In their minds, they’re losing the last tool they have left to rape.

Abortion is another topic in the Manosphere that they don’t talk about much but some of the louder voices do. Paul Elam is clearly against abortion. He and his MRA buddies are pissed they can’t control women’s reproduction as much as they used to. This is why the Republican’s are so hung about trying to pass as much legislation they can to restrict women’s ability to have an abortion.

It’s never been about men’s rights. It’s about men’s desire to control women. MGTOW isn’t about men going their own way. It’s about a toddler having a tantrum thinking a woman will come along and feel bad for his little fits and decide to pity him. ‘I’m going away now! Do you see me going away?’

‘Please give me some sex, please?’

It’s men who think woman are natural going to come along, like mommy, and care for the poor sod who just shat his pants.

It’s why I think the term reactionary fits them to a T. It’s a reaction to women making a step forward in controlling their destiny.

Oh, if only she didn’t have a vagina that I feel entitled to!

 

Who Are The Men’s Rights Activists Funding Cassie Jaye?

Cassie Jaye did a Livestream with Sargon of Akkad, who rose to fame as the Youtube neckbeard of Gamergate. That’s how he came to prominence within the Manosphere. I was in the livestream watching men’s rights activists talk. Guess what the most common comments, the most common themes of the entire conversation?

There were a few common themes. The first that stood out to me was the endless sexualizing of Cassie. Roughly every 5-6 comments that flew by were about her looks and how they wanted to fuck her.

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I don’t know if Cassie could see the chat and what these men were saying to her but one thing stood out to me. In the livestream she said the media outlet Vocatif took her statements out of context when she talked about being stalked by an MRA at her home with endless phone calls trying to woo her. This is exactly what I found MRA’s doing in the chat. From what I saw, there were lots of guys trying to hit on her. Even after the livestream, the top comments on the video are men sexualizing her.

The other theme in the chat was white male supremacy. This is just a tiny sample of the white male supremacist comments. The others were just too offensive or simply contained black face smilies with the words ‘niglet’ next to it and many symbols and the Jewish magen David. Many were about Jews needing to be gassed and lots of racial epithets, like ‘nigger.’white supremacist comms

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antisemitismWhite male supremacists are funding her film, no doubt about it. In fact, during the Livestream she reached her stretch goal of 175K and the guys told her.

money goal reached When she talked about the fact women need abortion rights and that these rights are under attack, many MRA’s didn’t like that. They are typically against abortion because they see women as incubators for ‘their child.’ Sargon even made a remark that abortions shouldn’t be common.

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When Cassie brought up her issues with Hollywood being sexist and Christianity being sexist, men didn’t like that either.

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When the audience thought she was taking questions from them, this was the first question asked:comms 1

Some men declared that housework isn’t really a job. This is the mindset of these men. Many declared their eligibility to her and wanted to marry her.

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When Cassie brought up her experience being in LA acting scene where women were being coerced to undress instead of act, the men got upset with this too. Sexually objectifying women is declared as totally natural for men to do to women. Even their Daddy idol Warren Farrell thinks women’s bodies and their sexuality are women’s power over men and that women withhold it and make men do stupid things. That’s why he put a naked woman on the cover of Myth of Male Power. It’s his central thesis. cassie acting comms cassie talks about acting cassies acting mra analysis lol mras in chat cassieThe men’s rights movement is not about men’s rights. It’s about male supremacy and white male anger at women. That’s all it will ever be. It’s not complicated Cassie.

It’s Not Complicated Cassie Jaye

The idea that Cassie Jaye’s movie on the MRM is going to be fair and balanced is simply laughable. The fact she never even reached out to me is a clear sign there’s not going to be any clear criticism of her subject.  I’ve been doing this for years, searching the nooks and crannies of the MRM, with an intense focus on A Voice for Men, to report what I find there, and it’s pretty simple: male supremacy.

I will not be paying a penny for this film. Enabling MRA’s to spread their hatred is not a feminist act Cassie. I don’t want to pay to watch a fireside chat where Paul Elam misrepresents himself and his movement while he stares shifty eyed into the camera.

Plus, male supremacist movements are historically cyclical. There are always reactionary men’s movements that spring up when women gain a certain amount of critical mass and bring their issues into the public consciousness. Every feminist knows this. The fact Cassie doesn’t see this or maybe is ignoring it for cash, is pretty lame, yet predictable. A turd is always a turd Cassie. Staring at a turd intently isn’t going to make it turn into something nice.

All hail the Golden Turd

Look at the book resources that A Voice for Men plasters on the front page of the site. Belfort Bax was a socialist that lived in the 1800’s, and even though Conservanut and Libertardian MRA’s hate socialism, they adore this guy. The reason is because he was a stanch misogynist, part of a male supremacist backlash during his time. Hell, Paul Elam is charging money for his writings when you can get them for free.

Cassie Jaye is no different than the handful of women that come to the rescue of MRA’s and front for them, because they make money doing so.  Karen Straughn and the Honey Badgers are one such group. They are able to command tens of thousands of dollars on a whim.

When they got booted from Cal Expo the MRM went into full tilt, making endless hours of videos, while the Honey Badgers carefully calculated a fundraiser to take advantage of the momentum and anger, at women and feminists. They even call their Youtube radio platform ‘The Ragening.’

Concoct a story that it’s all women and feminists fault, stoke that male anger to maximum outrage and the dollars come flowing in.

Cassie Jaye is a leech to the big vein of cash, always on tap for a woman who MRA’s gleefully embrace to give them the air of legitimacy. When Cassie realized feminists weren’t going to fund a film on male supremacist tantrums she went sobbing to Milo Yiannopolous, and she got her 100K, in less than a day.

Now she’s claiming that ‘Milo Yiannopolous’ isn’t a men’s rights activist. Earth to Cassie: He’s been publishing MRA rhetoric and leeching off Gamergate for some time.

Cassie claims she didn’t want feminists to donate large amounts of cash because she said they wanted creative control over the film, yet she took 10K from a few MRA’s and they’re getting a film credit.

Now Cassie is flogging David Futrelle, in a video on Youtube for more attention, because he wrote some words on a blog that she knew she could use to manufacture more male anger. She’s blaming him for the fact that most people don’t want anything to do with the subject matter of her movie, which should be titled ‘Men’s Rights Activists Play With Puppies Sometimes.’  We all know that every once in a while you can find an MRA doing something that looks innocuous, cute even, but give em an internet connection and the white male whiny rage begins.

Paul Elam’s girlfriend tried this not too long ago, painting Elam as a lovely and sensitive man because he cried over the loss of his dog Rocky. Well yeah, sometimes horrible misogynists do humane things. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure this out Cassie.

Another Conservative woman, BravetheWorld,  dipped her hand into the sewer of the MRM and like most people, found it to be full of hatred of women. When she spoke up about this the MRA online whinefest swamped her video, rated it down, and left horrible comments. She didn’t need to make a film worth 100K to figure this out.

And like clockwork, Diana Davidson, another female MRA handmaiden decided it was worth some money to counter-attack BravetheWorld. It was worth at least 18,000 views and some cash.

MRA handmaidens fight amongst themselves for notoriety and cash since disagreement and fighting with the men is forbidden. Karen Straughn is no stranger to this behaviour either.

When you’re swimming in the swamp, it’s hard to pick out the right turd. Cassie admits she’s already been stalked by one male supremacist during the making of the film. In the comment section on Cassie Jaye’s latest video whining about David Futrelle, there’s a sort of warning by MRA’s to her.

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We all know what this means. Portray us the way we paid you for and we won’t come after you later like we’ve done to countless other women. It’s similar to what a violent john does to a prostituted woman.

MRA’s funded the movie and they’ll get what they pay for. This is how MRA social media works. It’s how Milo, Sargon, Thunderf00t, Mundane Matt et al, put food on the table. Stoke the anger of white male supremacists, attack women, rake in cash, repeat.

Just look at what King Crockodumb tried doing to Laughing Witch. He made up a big whopper of an MRA narrative to try and milk his Youtube subs for cash. He told Laughing Witch to play the stupid, silly wife of the proud patriarchal husband who doesn’t know what his little woman was up to on the internet.

The fact Cassie is now blaming David Futrelle for her dirty hands after she did a swan dive into the septic tank of the Manosphere is pretty darn ironic.  She knows MRA’s have had a target on Futrelle’s back for years. The handmaidens always keep the men happy.

The only problem here, and it’s one David and I agree on, is that this will come back to bite her in the ass. You know the old saying, ‘you lay down with dogs. . .’

You see Cassie, it’s not complicated. People like myself and David aren’t magical in the sense we can see the future from our crystal balls. We just know the root of the MRM because we’ve monitored them for years and understand the basis of the entire movement.

Cassie calls herself a feminist, which is pretty pathetic. Feminists don’t give misogynists a legitimate platform. It’s like one of those cardinal rules, a foundational principle if you will.

Gosh, even ABC’s 20/20 realized the shit they were in and ultimately refused to air the interview they did with Elam. Just postponing it got MRA’s attacking Liz Vargas, another woman in a long line of women they’ve attacked for not asking ‘how high?’ when they told her to jump.

You’re free to do what you will Cassie, but turning this around on those who’ve known and researched the Manosphere far longer and far deeper than you have will have consequences that have nothing to do with either myself or David Futrelle. We’re not your scapegoats.

Oh and that’s not a threat, that’s just a fact.

 

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Protecting Yourself Online and Offline From Men’s Rights Activists: The Big Post

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I am taking donations now and will be doing a long fundraiser. I survive on disability, which isn’t much and spend my time working to protect women from MRA’s and male supremacists. My donate button is under mine and Boogie’s mouse picture on the right sidebar. All your help is much appreciated. The winter season is the worst for me financially. Help out a disabled sister. I need a new computer or else I won’t be doing this work much longer. ~Diana aka HMQ

I get this question so damned often I’m going to write a post about it. Ladies, it’s time to clean up your social media accounts and take back control. Here I present 3 sections, or 3 tactics, that men’s rights weirdos use to lure you in. This post is for you, so if you don’t want to waste your time, you can spot them right away.

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MRA’s on Youtube gathering to harass a woman online

The first thing you must learn is how MRA’s talk and their tactics. MRA’s are ‘Chairborne Rangers’, which means they sit in their parents house and scream at women online and sometimes they’ll take it offline too, this is especially truein Canada.

There are two distinct types of MRA: the older bitter divorced male and the young bitter male who is unsuccessful in relating to women.

Occasionally, you’ll get a female handmaiden but they aren’t very common at all. Many MRA’s pretend they’re women online because they think it gives them legitimacy, which is rather ironic. MRA’s are mostly republicans and libertarians but I’m seeing more left wing men embrace their lingo and tactics.

Over here at Mancheeze, we feel totally comfortable saying all men are misogynists to one degree or another. These loser men spend hours on the internet searching for articles on feminism and women in order to find the ones that offend their feelz. They use Google Alerts for precisely this purpose.

They are also serial stalkers and doxxers of women. Please protect your information. If you are being harassed in any way CALL YOUR LOCAL POLICE. I can’t stress this enough. Don’t think you’re wasting their time, because you’re not. The best strategy is documenting everything these men do on social media and giving it to the police. You pay taxes, you pay police salaries.

Tactic 1

The primary tactic MRA’s use is the bad faith questioning/statement tactic. It’s usually an innocuous Captain Obvious kind of question that they know you’ll answer in the affirmative. Trust me though, they’re not listening to you. They only use this tactic in order to spew their rhetoric at you. It goes something like this:

‘Did you know or do you agree that men are affected by domestic violence, rape, false rape allegations, corrupt family courts, suicide, etc?’

You will answer ‘yes’ to most of these questions because every once in a while these things do happen. They just don’t happen at the same rate and frequency he thinks they do. Sometimes he’ll launch immediately into his rhetoric, sometimes not. If he does go immediately below to tactic 2 and 3. This allows him to then ask the next bad faith question/statement:

‘What is feminism doing about those things?’ or ‘What has feminism done for you?’

OR he’ll say

‘The Men’s Rights movement is doing something about it.’

Depending on your mileage, you can give him a short answer or a long one but ultimately, you’re wasting your time. We all know feminism is the principal movement that deals with these issues and has been the leading force, but he doesn’t want to hear it.

Tactic 2

Next comes the Men’s Rights LITANY. It’s sorta like Frank Herbert’s ‘fear is the mind killer, fear is the little death’ litany but much much longer and more mansplainy. If he mentions any of these things in this list, he’s an MRA:

  • MISANDRY!
  • feminazi
  • Warren Farrell
  • the draft, which doesn’t exist anymore
  • ‘I’m all for equality.’
  • but women CHOOSE prostitution!
  • gynocentrism
  • traditionalism
  • the Titanic lifeboats
  • feminism is a CIA plot
  • child support
  • child custody
  • ‘you’re using shaming language!’
  • radical feminists
  • the 1 in 4 rape stat is wrong and ‘men get raped more!’
  • male suicide
  • male circumcision/ intactivism
  • the wage gap is a lie
  • Big Red or ‘feminists pulled a fire alarm’
  • free speech and cries of censorship
  • the glass cellar
  • Earl Silverman
  • but there’s no domestic violence shelters for men!
  • Erin Pizzey or ‘the woman who started the first shelter for women’
  • boys are behind girls in school
  • there’s little to no men going to college or uni
  • child custody aka father’s rights
  • false rape accusations
  • there is no rape culture!
  • women get less jail time than men for the same crime
  • men’s reproductive rights aka paper abortion aka male pill
  • the draft (which doesn’t exist anymore)
  • women live longer than men
  • men built everything!
  • paternity fraud
  • they paint women as sex predators of boys
  • Anita Sarkeesian, video games, and Gamergate

Basically these men feel they’re the most oppressed on the planet while each and every bit of evidence we’ve gathered and is legitimate shows exactly the opposite. What they want is male supremacy and to step all over women’s gains.

Tactic 3

The next thing he’ll do is give you his standard link list to a whole bunch of cherry picked studies, studies he has misinterpreted, and other assorted crap that he wants you to read. He won’t accept anything but your full agreement. His aim is for you to denounce feminism completely.

  • Fiebert bibliography on domestic violence
  • the CDC study on rape and sexual assault
  • erroneous blog links
  • White Ribbon. ORG ( a fake DV site they made to mimic and internationally recognized White Ribbon.CA site)
  • links to A Voice for Men
  • links to Canadian Association for Equality (an MRA group in Canada)
  • Youtube videos by Karen Straughan, who refuses to thank the Suffragettes for getting the right to vote
  • Psychology Today; any and all brain studies or evo psych crap that says women and men’s brains are critically different when they’re not.
  • domestic violence research by Don Dutton
  • Orwell quotes
  • books by Ernest Belford Bax, a dead misogynist (thank u!)
  • studies that claim false rape claims are everywhere
  • some shit about women abusing little boys
  • Erin Pizzey, a former feminist who lies about her dog being shot by feminists

The only other tactic MRA’s have is to use CAPSLOCK and start calling you a feminazi, whore, and cunt. A lot of their whining is of the TLDR type where they rarely use paragraph breaks and expect you to read his  ‘Asshole MANifesto’

What To Do If MRA Continues to Stalk and Harass You Online

As I said above, your first recourse, and the best one, is to call your local police. Explain to them you are being stalked by a man involved in a hate group. The Manosphere and MRA’s have been designated as ‘misogynist hate sites’ by the Southern Poverty Law Center in the USA. The SPLC tracks hate groups such as the KKK, and neo nazis. Guess what? They also track the Men’s rights movement.

I’ve had to call my local police, the FBI and CSIS. They are usually quite helpful.

Start a document in a word processor and search google for the screenname of the man harassing you. Chances are he’s been on several MRA websites making comments. Screencap where he harasses others or uses sexual threats. Get links to his videos if he has them. Chances are he’s been doing this for a while. Paste what you find into the document so you can give it to the authorities.

Giving this research this to the local police is imperative. Here is a list of links you can give to the officer when she arrives to show you’re not just some nutter wasting time:

Misogyny: The Sites | Southern Poverty Law Center

Men’s Rights Movement Spreads False Claims about Women

Intelligence Report Article Provokes Fury Among Men’s …

The next thing you can do is report it to the FBI.

FBI — Report Threats and Crime

If you’re Canadian you can contact CSIS; You usually have to snail mail them.

CSIS Contact Page

It’s highly recommended to never use your real name online. I know this poses complications for Facebook users but I still think it’s best to use a pseudonym. MRA’s are on Facebook and they do use it to gather personal information on women. I once saw English speaking MRA’s try to find a Quebec woman based on the French slogan she had on her t shirt. You have to understand these men have nothing better to do with their time than to go after you. This is their entire life. 

For Feminist Protesters

If you’re a feminist protester you will want to wear a mask of some sort to cover your face whether it’s your event or an MRA event. Don’t wear clothing with local markers on it. MRA’s are well known for video taping women at Slutwalks or other events where women gather in order to dox you.

Just last month an MRA came to Canada to give a talk and he sent his MRA followers into the streets to ‘gather intel.’  These men doxxed several women and harassed them and their families for weeks. MRA’s videotape female protesters all the time and then search for their dox.

For Women on Campus

MRA’s common target is women on campus, whether student or staff. The goal of the Manosphere is to get their hate groups on college campuses because they think radical feminists are literally running entire countries from Universities. It doesn’t matter if you consider yourself a radical feminist or not. That’s what you’ll be called and hey, it’s actually a compliment.

There are MRA students who may or may not be part of a ‘men’s group’ who will start postering your campus with propaganda. He’ll also try to monitor women’s studies classes. You’ll know if you have an MRA in class with you. He’ll engage the strategies and tactics above like clockwork. He might also start frivolous legal complaints with the Uni. If you happen to be the woman he targets, you’ll have to get the University involved quickly and tell them about the SPLC and the fact that men’s groups are misogynist hate groups. They might not listen. In fact, in my view, Universities are the weakest link in the chain. If you have access to a lawyer, get one.

This is where it gets tricky.

He’ll whine about free speech. It must be remembered that he’s not doing this in good faith. He’s there to spread a message of hatred and misogyny. His actions will be erratic. One MRA Sage Gerard snuck into the women’s bathroom on a US campus to put up A Voice for Men propaganda. His behaviour on campus is the issue. Remember that. It’s not about free speech. It’s about his behaviour and the misogyny he spews.

He’ll videotape your classrooms, students, and upload them to Youtube where him and other MRA’s will mock them and trade the personal information of female students. If you confront him he’ll lie and tell you he’s an ‘egalitarian’ who has no ties to A Voice for Men. This is the current situation with the Canadian Association for Equality. They put on a good face while they undermine women at every turn.

These lists above are by no means complete but they will help you get familiar.  In fact, I will add to it if anyone comments below with more information.

Even though I spend a ton of time in the Manosphere, keeping that much memory reserved for them is difficult. I’ve gotten to the point where I’ve spent so much time researching them that I can smell them a mile away.

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For further perusal:

Here’s a real life example of an MRA going to Slutwalk and using bad faith questions in order to mansplain to women his absurd positions and cherry picked ‘data.’

Here’s a video of Dan Perrins, a Canadian MRA from Hamilton, Ontario. Dan loves to approach women in public, get pushy, and then claim they’re harassing him. Dan is also responsible for telling Jeff Sharlet of GQ magazine that he ‘should’ve killed the bitch (his ex).’

Dan has a criminal record and he’s also called the police on me for using the internet, even though he’s been blocked across all my social media platforms for a long time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dan has several police reports on him by women he’s stalked and harassed while doing ‘activism’ for Paul Elam.

Dan likes to call abuse hotlines for women and do the MRA bobbly head routine. Dan is very aggressive and unstable.

Cassie Jaye’s ‘The Red Pill’

So a woman did a dickumentary on the MRM and released a preview on Youtube. I don’t know what to make of it. Giving MRA’s a platform to spew their rhetoric is a double edged sword. It’s good because they show themselves to be the regressive woman haters they are but it also allows them to mislead the public. The good thing is Cassie interviewed people who, like me, are totally aware of what the Manosphere is and can effectively counter them and expose them for the misogynists they are.

There’s one scene in the preview where she’s having some psychological issues where she thinks she’s being gaslighted by these men. Hint: you are Cassie.

“The Red Pill” documentary extended sneak preview – YouTube

She’s asking for almost 100,000.00 to finish the film on a kickstarter. I won’t be donating. I’ve heard enough of woman hating to last me a lifetime.

Woman Hating

I’ve been reading some herstorical documents on women’s suffrage and Youtube videos. It’s common knowledge on Youtube that every video about women’s rights is invaded by MRA’s in the comment section. Many MRA’s hate the fact women can vote. On one video, which looks like a school project of a female highschool student, an MRA left a comment describing what he’d do if he could go back to the suffragette era and write the 19th amendment. It’s extremely disturbing but shows how the Manosphere thinks of women and how they want to enslave us and enact male violence on us. Their hypocrisy I’ll save for after you read what follows.

For those of you who may have read my last comment and didn’t like it, well i have the official format for the 19th amendment. The female slavery act,
Article 1: The New Masculine Order Section 1 –  All legislative, executive and judicial powers shall be given to the representatives of the male population of the nation. No females shall be eligible for such offices, and they will have no right to vote.
Article 2: The New Status of the Females Section 1 – All females over the age of 18 shall become the property of their closest male relatives. Their owners have the right to keep or sell the females for sexual use. Females without a father, a husband, or any close male relatives will belong to the public. Public females shall be appropriated and trained by state run institutions for the good of the public.
Section 2 –  a-Enslaved females shall be called “fuckslaves” or “slavecunts”. A sex slave must refer to herself in the third person as “this cunt”. b-Enslaved females shall call their owners “master”. Enslaved or not, all females shall behave respectfully in the presence of men. c-All fuckslaves must bear a black leather neck-band to identify themselves as enslaved fucktoys. Removing a slave neck-band is punishable by death. d-Fuckslaves must stay in a respectful kneeling position or crawl on all-fours like puppies in the presence of men. Enslaved females are not allowed to walk or stand on their two feet unless ordered by their masters. e-Fuckslaves shall be restained by a proper dog-leash when in public. f-Fuckslaves shall never say “no” to their masters. Slaves are not allowed to defy orders or use negative language. Defying a master is punishable by death. g-Fuckslaves shall not speak in the presence of their masters or other men unless spoken to. When asked a question or ordered to perform sexual or other tasks, fuckslaves must speak with a soft and respectful voice. Article
3 – The Bureau of Female Affairs
Section 1 –  The Bureau of Female Affairs (BFA) shall be responsible of the tasks below; a-The registration and monitoring of all nubile females over the age of 18, who are eligible for sexual use: All females must register at the BFA within the week after their 18th birthday. BFA shall obtain and file detailed images and video of the female subjects for future use. b-Forceful appropriation and training of public females (i.e. orphans, women without a natural or legal owner) : The BFA shall train eligible females for proper sex service and sell them to private persons and institutions. c-The BFA shall keep a national slave registry in order to safeguard the property owner’s rights, provide slave insurance, and enforcement services.
Section 2 – The Freedom Fee All females over the age of 18 must be registered by the Bureau of Female Affairs. Natural owners of females (parent, husbands, etc) who choose not to sell their females must pay a “freedom fee” in order to buy a “limited exclusion from slavery” permit. A female can be excluded from slavery for only two years with a single permit. The exclusion term can be extended by further payment. Failure to pay will result in immediate enslavement of the female subject by the BFA.
HYPOCRISY OF MRA’s

I find it odd that MRA’s are whining about a post by Julie Bindel, which they quote mined, when I can find MRA’s saying things like the above all over the place. Julie’s writing was tongue in cheek. She talked about women only communities to escape the very real problem of male violence and compulsory heterosexuality and made a quip about men in camps that women could check out like a library book. MRA’s took that one statement, didn’t read the rest of it, and starting falling down on the ground having mantrums.

Here’s Julie’s quote, in context

Will heterosexuality survive women’s liberation?

It won’t, not unless men get their act together, have their power taken from them and behave themselves. I mean, I would actually put them all in some kind of camp where they can all drive around in quad bikes, or bicycles, or white vans. I would give them a choice of vehicles to drive around with, give them no porn, they wouldn’t be able to fight – we would have wardens, of course! Women who want to see their sons or male loved ones would be able to go and visit, or take them out like a library book, and then bring them back.

Wow, that was so serious. Quad bikes and white vans.

Yet above we have this MRA describing his sexually violent laws, in great detail, as a reaction to women having the right to vote. It’s not a quip or a metaphor. It’s not a funny one liner buried in an analytic post like Julie’s was. It’s a long description of what he thinks of women and what he wants to do to us.

MRA’s are so hypocritical. They talk about women’s suffrage being wrong, abortion being wrong, enslaving us through law,  and taking away our rights but when a woman says ‘we’ve had enough’ and makes a quip about men with quad bikes in a camp with no porn, men go insane. It’s the typical scenario where women are, like Mill says, supposed to like being oppressed by men. The moment we fight back with the mildest of words, men go insane.

We’re not the ones suggesting suffrage was a bad idea or coming up with ways to sexually and physically torture through law. We’re not the one’s getting off on sexually violent porn all day. We simply aren’t the perpetrators, men are.

Old film archive of Suffrage from London to USA