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I get this question so damned often I’m going to write a post about it. Ladies, it’s time to clean up your social media accounts and take back control. Here I present 3 sections, or 3 tactics, that men’s rights weirdos use to lure you in. This post is for you, so if you don’t want to waste your time, you can spot them right away.
The first thing you must learn is how MRA’s talk and their tactics. MRA’s are ‘Chairborne Rangers’, which means they sit in their parents house and scream at women online and sometimes they’ll take it offline too, this is especially truein Canada.
There are two distinct types of MRA: the older bitter divorced male and the young bitter male who is unsuccessful in relating to women.
Occasionally, you’ll get a female handmaiden but they aren’t very common at all. Many MRA’s pretend they’re women online because they think it gives them legitimacy, which is rather ironic. MRA’s are mostly republicans and libertarians but I’m seeing more left wing men embrace their lingo and tactics.
Over here at Mancheeze, we feel totally comfortable saying all men are misogynists to one degree or another. These loser men spend hours on the internet searching for articles on feminism and women in order to find the ones that offend their feelz. They use Google Alerts for precisely this purpose.
They are also serial stalkers and doxxers of women. Please protect your information. If you are being harassed in any way CALL YOUR LOCAL POLICE. I can’t stress this enough. Don’t think you’re wasting their time, because you’re not. The best strategy is documenting everything these men do on social media and giving it to the police. You pay taxes, you pay police salaries.
Tactic 1
The primary tactic MRA’s use is the bad faith questioning/statement tactic. It’s usually an innocuous Captain Obvious kind of question that they know you’ll answer in the affirmative. Trust me though, they’re not listening to you. They only use this tactic in order to spew their rhetoric at you. It goes something like this:
‘Did you know or do you agree that men are affected by domestic violence, rape, false rape allegations, corrupt family courts, suicide, etc?’
You will answer ‘yes’ to most of these questions because every once in a while these things do happen. They just don’t happen at the same rate and frequency he thinks they do. Sometimes he’ll launch immediately into his rhetoric, sometimes not. If he does go immediately below to tactic 2 and 3. This allows him to then ask the next bad faith question/statement:
‘What is feminism doing about those things?’ or ‘What has feminism done for you?’
OR he’ll say
‘The Men’s Rights movement is doing something about it.’
Depending on your mileage, you can give him a short answer or a long one but ultimately, you’re wasting your time. We all know feminism is the principal movement that deals with these issues and has been the leading force, but he doesn’t want to hear it.
Tactic 2
Next comes the Men’s Rights LITANY. It’s sorta like Frank Herbert’s ‘fear is the mind killer, fear is the little death’ litany but much much longer and more mansplainy. If he mentions any of these things in this list, he’s an MRA:
- MISANDRY!
- feminazi
- Warren Farrell
- the draft, which doesn’t exist anymore
- ‘I’m all for equality.’
- but women CHOOSE prostitution!
- gynocentrism
- traditionalism
- the Titanic lifeboats
- feminism is a CIA plot
- child support
- child custody
- ‘you’re using shaming language!’
- radical feminists
- the 1 in 4 rape stat is wrong and ‘men get raped more!’
- male suicide
- male circumcision/ intactivism
- the wage gap is a lie
- Big Red or ‘feminists pulled a fire alarm’
- free speech and cries of censorship
- the glass cellar
- Earl Silverman
- but there’s no domestic violence shelters for men!
- Erin Pizzey or ‘the woman who started the first shelter for women’
- boys are behind girls in school
- there’s little to no men going to college or uni
- child custody aka father’s rights
- false rape accusations
- there is no rape culture!
- women get less jail time than men for the same crime
- men’s reproductive rights aka paper abortion aka male pill
- the draft (which doesn’t exist anymore)
- women live longer than men
- men built everything!
- paternity fraud
- they paint women as sex predators of boys
- Anita Sarkeesian, video games, and Gamergate
Basically these men feel they’re the most oppressed on the planet while each and every bit of evidence we’ve gathered and is legitimate shows exactly the opposite. What they want is male supremacy and to step all over women’s gains.
Tactic 3
The next thing he’ll do is give you his standard link list to a whole bunch of cherry picked studies, studies he has misinterpreted, and other assorted crap that he wants you to read. He won’t accept anything but your full agreement. His aim is for you to denounce feminism completely.
- Fiebert bibliography on domestic violence
- the CDC study on rape and sexual assault
- erroneous blog links
- White Ribbon. ORG ( a fake DV site they made to mimic and internationally recognized White Ribbon.CA site)
- links to A Voice for Men
- links to Canadian Association for Equality (an MRA group in Canada)
- Youtube videos by Karen Straughan, who refuses to thank the Suffragettes for getting the right to vote
- Psychology Today; any and all brain studies or evo psych crap that says women and men’s brains are critically different when they’re not.
- domestic violence research by Don Dutton
- Orwell quotes
- books by Ernest Belford Bax, a dead misogynist (thank u!)
- studies that claim false rape claims are everywhere
- some shit about women abusing little boys
- Erin Pizzey, a former feminist who lies about her dog being shot by feminists
The only other tactic MRA’s have is to use CAPSLOCK and start calling you a feminazi, whore, and cunt. A lot of their whining is of the TLDR type where they rarely use paragraph breaks and expect you to read his ‘Asshole MANifesto’
What To Do If MRA Continues to Stalk and Harass You Online
As I said above, your first recourse, and the best one, is to call your local police. Explain to them you are being stalked by a man involved in a hate group. The Manosphere and MRA’s have been designated as ‘misogynist hate sites’ by the Southern Poverty Law Center in the USA. The SPLC tracks hate groups such as the KKK, and neo nazis. Guess what? They also track the Men’s rights movement.
I’ve had to call my local police, the FBI and CSIS. They are usually quite helpful.
Start a document in a word processor and search google for the screenname of the man harassing you. Chances are he’s been on several MRA websites making comments. Screencap where he harasses others or uses sexual threats. Get links to his videos if he has them. Chances are he’s been doing this for a while. Paste what you find into the document so you can give it to the authorities.
Giving this research this to the local police is imperative. Here is a list of links you can give to the officer when she arrives to show you’re not just some nutter wasting time:
Misogyny: The Sites | Southern Poverty Law Center
Men’s Rights Movement Spreads False Claims about Women
Intelligence Report Article Provokes Fury Among Men’s …
The next thing you can do is report it to the FBI.
FBI — Report Threats and Crime
If you’re Canadian you can contact CSIS; You usually have to snail mail them.
It’s highly recommended to never use your real name online. I know this poses complications for Facebook users but I still think it’s best to use a pseudonym. MRA’s are on Facebook and they do use it to gather personal information on women. I once saw English speaking MRA’s try to find a Quebec woman based on the French slogan she had on her t shirt. You have to understand these men have nothing better to do with their time than to go after you. This is their entire life.
For Feminist Protesters
If you’re a feminist protester you will want to wear a mask of some sort to cover your face whether it’s your event or an MRA event. Don’t wear clothing with local markers on it. MRA’s are well known for video taping women at Slutwalks or other events where women gather in order to dox you.
Just last month an MRA came to Canada to give a talk and he sent his MRA followers into the streets to ‘gather intel.’ These men doxxed several women and harassed them and their families for weeks. MRA’s videotape female protesters all the time and then search for their dox.
For Women on Campus
MRA’s common target is women on campus, whether student or staff. The goal of the Manosphere is to get their hate groups on college campuses because they think radical feminists are literally running entire countries from Universities. It doesn’t matter if you consider yourself a radical feminist or not. That’s what you’ll be called and hey, it’s actually a compliment.
There are MRA students who may or may not be part of a ‘men’s group’ who will start postering your campus with propaganda. He’ll also try to monitor women’s studies classes. You’ll know if you have an MRA in class with you. He’ll engage the strategies and tactics above like clockwork. He might also start frivolous legal complaints with the Uni. If you happen to be the woman he targets, you’ll have to get the University involved quickly and tell them about the SPLC and the fact that men’s groups are misogynist hate groups. They might not listen. In fact, in my view, Universities are the weakest link in the chain. If you have access to a lawyer, get one.
This is where it gets tricky.
He’ll whine about free speech. It must be remembered that he’s not doing this in good faith. He’s there to spread a message of hatred and misogyny. His actions will be erratic. One MRA Sage Gerard snuck into the women’s bathroom on a US campus to put up A Voice for Men propaganda. His behaviour on campus is the issue. Remember that. It’s not about free speech. It’s about his behaviour and the misogyny he spews.
He’ll videotape your classrooms, students, and upload them to Youtube where him and other MRA’s will mock them and trade the personal information of female students. If you confront him he’ll lie and tell you he’s an ‘egalitarian’ who has no ties to A Voice for Men. This is the current situation with the Canadian Association for Equality. They put on a good face while they undermine women at every turn.
These lists above are by no means complete but they will help you get familiar. In fact, I will add to it if anyone comments below with more information.
Even though I spend a ton of time in the Manosphere, keeping that much memory reserved for them is difficult. I’ve gotten to the point where I’ve spent so much time researching them that I can smell them a mile away.
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For further perusal:
Here’s a real life example of an MRA going to Slutwalk and using bad faith questions in order to mansplain to women his absurd positions and cherry picked ‘data.’
Here’s a video of Dan Perrins, a Canadian MRA from Hamilton, Ontario. Dan loves to approach women in public, get pushy, and then claim they’re harassing him. Dan is also responsible for telling Jeff Sharlet of GQ magazine that he ‘should’ve killed the bitch (his ex).’
Dan has a criminal record and he’s also called the police on me for using the internet, even though he’s been blocked across all my social media platforms for a long time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dan has several police reports on him by women he’s stalked and harassed while doing ‘activism’ for Paul Elam.
Dan likes to call abuse hotlines for women and do the MRA bobbly head routine. Dan is very aggressive and unstable.